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Woelk: Colorado missing ability to finish
Pick out a game that epitomizes the 2008 Colorado Buffaloes' season, and you couldn't find one much better than Saturday night's 30-17 loss to Oklahoma State.
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Before the game ever started, the Buffs were missing their leading rusher from last week's win over Iowa State (Darrell Scott, ankle injury) and the starting safety who made the game-saving stop in the win (D.J. Dykes, illness). Barely five minutes into the affair, Colorado then lost its other starting safety when Ryan Walters went down with a leg injury.
Enter two inexperienced backups against one of the nation's best passing offenses. Not a good sign.
Meanwhile, the Buffs then proceeded to become their own worst enemies on offense. A missed field goal, a dropped pass in the end zone, a lost fumble in their own territory (converted by OSU into a field goal) and another fumble that killed a drive in OSU territory took at least 10 -- possibly more -- points off the board.
Defensively, more of the same. The Buffs played well in stretches, but gave up too many of the "gashers" that have plagued them all season, including a 43-yard touchdown run to open the second half."We're shooting ourselves in the foot. We get a good offensive drive going, but then we just kill ourselves. We have to be able to smell blood and punch it in."
By the time it was over, the Buffaloes had played just well enough to make things relatively interesting against the nation's 11th-ranked team, but not nearly well enough to scratch out a win.
That's the season in a nutshell. A team with little margin for error has seen too many of its woes self-inflicted. At the same time, a team whose depth was tenuous at best when the season started found itself stretched far too thin in far too many areas.
Now the Buffs' year has come down to a make-or-break game at the home of their rival. Colorado can still extend its season with a win at Nebraska on Nov. 28, but it most certainly will not be favored to do so.
"It's been a one-game season for us for a long time," said senior defensive tackle George Hypolite.
Said coach Dan Hawkins: "We always talk about finishing. It's a big game coming up for a lot of reasons."
That's one of Hawkins' favorite phrases. Finish.
If you can name one facet missing from the 2008 Buffs, it's been the ability to do just that.
Saturday night, CU had a first-and-10 on OSU's 24, then failed to score when a field goal attempt hit the upright. Later in the half, a first-and-10 at the 16 yielded only a field goal. Another drive into OSU territory ended up empty because of a fumble.
"We're shooting ourselves in the foot," said running back Demetrius Sumler. "We get a good offensive drive going, but then we just kill ourselves. We have to be able to smell blood and punch it in."
Defensively, same thing. Too many times, the Buffs had OSU in third-and-long -- and gave up a big gain to keep the drive alive.
It's a sign of inexperience. Young players make mistakes, and when they make them at inopportune times, it's magnified exponentially. There has been no killer instinct, the confidence that comes with experience.
"We missed some opportunities to be sure," Hawkins said. "We thought we had an opportunity to do some things offensively. ... But the margin of error is clearly very, very small. You've got to make a couple of plays to keep that thing going."
This morning, the Buffs find themselves in exactly the same position they were in a year ago: a 5-6 record with bowl eligibility hanging in the balance when they face Nebraska in the season finale. It means about 10 days of practice to clean up a season's worth of mistakes.
But what Hawkins and his coaching staff can't do is pour a magic potion on his players and make them older overnight. The only cure for inexperience is time on the field -- and one of the bright spots from this season has been that every freshman and sophomore in the lineup has gained invaluable experience.
One irony from this year? When the season began, Buff fans worried that there were too many tailbacks available. But Saturday night, all three freshmen from the incoming class -- Scott, Rodney Stewart and Ray Polk -- were unavailable. It's a situation almost no one could have envisioned, but it's also another sign of the troubles that have hounded this team.
Throughout the season, Hawkins and his staff have maintained that they are headed in the right direction, that the foundation for the future is being built. Even in games such as Saturday's, when opportunities were squandered, there are still plenty of signs that they are indeed building toward a brighter day.
But today, CU fans aren't content with knowing that the young players who made mistakes on Saturday will be the older players making big plays a year from now.
They're only wondering if the Buffs can conjure up enough of Hawk's mojo to spring an upset at Nebraska.
Stranger things have happened.
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Posted by hinfinityl on November 16, 2008 at 12:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
True dat, true dat. Go Buffs. Huck the Fuskers.
Posted by tangelop on November 16, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I thought Hawk was suppose to be some kind of innovative offensive genius but after watching 10 reverses a game,a two yard zone read to sumler and a four yard completion to scoty mcnight(on 3rd and eight)for three years it is time to fire hawkins and bring in the Air Force or Navy coach. At least those two schools have an idenity and toughness on offense.I truly believe Mike Bohn wanted to hire Dave Logan as his #1 choice but instead went with his #2 pick.Hawk has turned out to be fools gold even Barnett was able to win the conferance title and get to the Fiesta Bowl.Hawkins talks about his attention to detail but time after time we are obviously out-coached each game.In tonights game CU started out over loading one side of their offensive line but failed to call any toss sweeps when OK State didn't shift defensively. Anybody who has ever coached football realizes you try to take advantage of mismatches but CU never took the advantage of toss sweep plays.We have gone from coach Mac to Neuweasal to Barney to a used car salesman.I long for the days of coach Mac and the utter violence his teams brought to Folsom field. After coach Macs team would win a game the opposing team would also lose the following week because they were so beat up!!!! RIP
Posted by BEL on November 16, 2008 at 2:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Although I would love to see CU run the toss sweep (aka USC's famed 'student body right' and 'student body left'), this play does not currently exist in CU's playbook. At least, I have never seen it called by Helfrich. I have previously opined that this play could become the signature running play for Darrell Scott. This play will allow Scott the opportunity to truly showcase his speed and power. We really need to get the ball to Darrell Scott in space behind a wall of blockers.
Incidentally, I saw some highlights from the Stanford-USC game last night where Stanford gave USC a heavy dose of toss sweeps. Stanford ran the ball very effectively against USC and gained over 200 yards on the ground.
CU does have a counter toss play where the QB fakes a handoff to the fullback going in one direction (with the offensive line also flowing in the same direction) and then tosses the ball to the tailback running in the opposite direction. This play gained 16 yards against OSU on the only occasion that it was called.
Although CU's double reverse can still be effective, opposing defenses have already been thoroughly schooled to defend the wide receiver end-around play. When opposing defenses see the fly-motion of the wide receiver as he starts running across the field prior to the snap, they are immediately put on alert. It is such an easy "tell" or tip-off.
Instead of attacking the perimeter with wide receiver end-arounds, it would be better, in my opinion, to attack the perimeter with toss sweeps where there is no apparent "tell" or tip-off to alert the defense.
I must say that I don't pretend to be a football coach. So, all my suggestions may merely be those coming from an ignorant, uninformed lay person.
Posted by BEL on November 16, 2008 at 3:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am old enough to have watched the Green Bay Packers when Vince Lombardi was the Head Coach. Lombardi said that football can be reduced to "blocking and tackling". The team that blocks better and tackles better will usually win. It was no coincidence that Lombardi's favorite play was the sweep. The famed "Green Bay Sweep" was the signature play for Lombardi's Packers. There was no trickery or finesse. It was a crucible of blood and guts to see whether the blocking or the tackling would prevail on any given sweep play. It was head-to-head, mano-a-mano combat.
Posted by netwirth on November 16, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I watched last night's game without from an analytical perspective..I had no delusions that CU would win. What I saw was an offense that could not execute. It looks like some plays are being run for the first time. Who takes the blame for this? Is it the Offensive Coordinator? Seems like they should be running these plays so much during the week that they execute simply from muscle memory.
Posted by Buffaloed on November 16, 2008 at 6:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it the Offensive Coordinator?
Good question. Some of the play calling, as pointed out in a previous post, simply sucks and you can't blame that on injuries or the players Neill. On the other hand I don't remember any team where I have seen this number of injuries ravage and O or D and we seem to have both.
Thanks to the seniors as I do think there was a real effort and they have played through some rocky times. Let's hope for an unexpected sendoff for them in the land of the Fuskers.
Posted by Ralphie2 on November 16, 2008 at 7:25 a.m.
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Posted by 1GoBuffs1 on November 16, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ron Prince + KSU = Lameduck. a win is a win though.
Can we please focus our recruiting on the midwest or the south? I am tired of these soft prima donnas out of cali!
OSU was ripe for the upset and again our illustrious OC (helfie) comes up with this game plan. Two trick plays [one worked, one didn't]. Do we have a screen play in the playbook? We don't look like we know whats going on, and that has happened in most of our losses if not all of them. We have no toughness, we are soft, we have no heart. I see nu giving us an a*s whuppin' if things stay the same, and why would they change, they haven't changed all year.
How far is Moyd in the dog house?
Can't J. Smith beat out C. Crawford?
Is P. Williams decoration?
Are we playing as well as we can for the talent level?
Why are the fans so far out of the loop that we didn't even know that D. Scott was injured on tues. and wasn't going to play?
Hawk could you please show some emotion? Yell at somebody, throw something, at least look like you care what is going on on the field.
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 16, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
For some real journalism, take a look at Mark Kiszla's piece in today's Post. Referring to Hawkins tenure he says: "[I]t all quickly slipped away and turned into a pity party, with too much bummed-out talk about killer injuries and youthful mistakes."
There's also a great photo of Cody on the field: every other player in the photo is at least a head taller than he is. The photo seems intended to reinforce the notion that Cody is out of his league.
Posted by rswright on November 16, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Week after week these posts tell us how bad the coaches are. Tell us posters if they are so bad, what is the solution? With no money,8 million dollars in debt, how CU is going to buy out H and H and hire new coaches? Of course if the coaches go, then Mike has to go as well. No one will take these posts as anything more than just a whine until you come up with a solution.
Posted by 1GoBuffs1 on November 16, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
coach better.
Posted by 1GoBuffs1 on November 16, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe we can cut baseball...oh too soon.
Posted by BEL on November 16, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am very happy to have Hawk as head coach and don't advocate making any changes in coaching personnel. It has not only been a learning experience for a young team, but also a learning experience for the coaches. Lord knows, there has been plenty of mistakes made by both players and coaches. This is just part of the learning process. As long as the players and coaches endeavor to learn from their mistakes, I am satisfied. I am fully prepared to wait until the end of Hawk's current contract to see the body of work that he has accomplished and perhaps get a glimpse of what type of legacy he is going to leave at CU.
Posted by siess on November 16, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Man, whois your daddy, Can you comment on something else other than Cody?
One track mind and that is all.
Posted by Victor on November 16, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Finish? That's a good one. To finish, first you have to start. The Buffs can't do that. They've got probably the worst offense in the Big 12. They scored two TD's last night, and one was pure luck. They scored 14 at home against Kansas State. Nebraska scored 56 on the road against the kittens. Cover your eyes on Nov. 28th!!
Posted by BEL on November 16, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Goodness gracious, some of the perpetual cynics and critics are now even calling out the Daily Camera for its “fluff” coverage of CU football. Personally, I enjoy reading the articles and have absolutely no complaints at all.
For example, thefishheadsoup says the Daily Camera should be "looking behind the scenes, asking tough questions, getting a bit more incisive, and digging just a bit deeper." What, if I may ask, is thefishheadsoup really looking for? His entire bent seems to be that if Daily Camera writers dug deeper they would eventually unearth some controversial issues or expose some flaws in the CU football program. Investigative journalism can easily turn into muckraking if the intent is only to dig up dirt. If there is gross wrongdoing or law breaking, then hardcore investigative journalism is warranted. But, those are rare situations. In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy reading the “fluff”.
There is merit in the sports adage that says "what is said in the locker room stays in the locker room". There are happenings behind the scenes that the general public should not be privy to – things that could cause some embarrassment, but are really inconsequential. As an example, if your boss gave you a poor job performance review, you would probably not want this information to become public. I commend Hawk and the Daily Camera for not trying to throw people under the bus.
Posted by BUFFAV8RNTX on November 16, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All in all, it was a decent performance against a very good OSU team. Notice how weak OSU offense was minus their RB. CU was without Dykes and Walters, so insert two Freshman...
CU offense had a lot of drops, Cody looked OK, no complaints. We only had a couple of boneheaded offensive plays (can we PLEASE stop running that stupid end around hand-off, its practically NEVER worked!)
Knowing our road woes, looks to be a dissapointing trip to Lincoln.....
Posted by TallyBuff on November 16, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
netwirth--the offense that Hawk & Helfrich have designed is complicated and requires attention to detail that would make peoples' head spin. Recall that Hawk spent spring break 2007 in Gainesville and that summer he and Helfrich redesigned their offense. Last year they were only able to open part of the playbook b/c Cody was the best QB available and there were no talented/speedy WRs. McKnight and Greer excelled b/c they execute at a high detail level. J Smith has speed and talent, but cannot execute consistently at a medium, much less high, level of detail.
This year the coaches mistakenly believed that Cody could execute much of the playbook. Speedy stunned us all with his play, but is not yet executing at a high level of detail. And the O-line makes lots of errors in what seems to me to mostly be a zone blocking scheme (which requires decision making about who to block). IMO Cody tried to take on more than he could chew and made lots of errors.
Over the course of the season Helfrich has trimmed the playbook in an effort to reduce the errors. This has worked, as far as I can tell, to some extent, but it had made us much more predictable. And despite this, the offense sputters and we see little evidence of motor memory kicking in.
Hawk built his career getting other peoples' cast-offs to believe that they could excel if they worked harder than everybody else. This is a classic tale that works well with players who know they are not the most talented on the field. At CU Hawk has a number of those guys, but he also has some genuinely talented players. I think it is interesting that players like McKnight, Jeff Smart, and Speedy have exceeded expectations under Hawk, but players like J Smith, Sipilli, and D Scott have yet to blossom under Hawk. Is this a pattern? Ryan Miller appears to be the exception, though with his season cut short it is hard to know how we would be playing now.
Posted by TallyBuff on November 16, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CONTINUED
I believe in Hawk b/c I believe in his approach and commitment. But I am beginning to wonder whether he can connect with truly talented people and get them to push themselves. Mac did it (e.g., McGhee, Williams, Aunese, Bienemy, Hagan, etc.), but perhaps Hawk is a guy who can get 2nd and 3rd tier players to maximize their potential, but can't reach the 1st tier and truly elite players. If that's the problem, then Hawk will fail. To succeed he is going to need to get the thoroughbreds to work like Walter Payton, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and so on. Those players were as talented as anyone at their position, but they were also famous for both their work ethic AND their attention to detail.
A high school player with D Scott's ability cruises through high school. When you step up a level the work required rises dramatically. Guys like Speedy who were passed over by other schools show up with a chip on their shoulder and expect to have to work their tail off. With some exceptions, four and five star recruits do not have that work ethic and need to learn it.
So, is it the coaches' fault? Yes. They have selected a scheme and recruited folks to make it work. It is terribly apparent that they do not presently have the horses, and they should have known that to be the case. They must have believed that they could get these guys to do the little things well enough to be successful. That has not happened. And trimming the play book has failed.
I hope the kids stick with it b/c Hawk and Helfrich are correct! But if the young players don't believe that and bust their butts, then it does not matter than H&H are correct. The challenge, as I see it, is to keep people drinking the Kool-Aid wrt effort, attention to detail and commitment to excellence. Ryan Miller is probably the role model, and if D Scott, Katoa, etc. follows his lead, good things may happen.
Posted by donintucson on November 16, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
BEL
You might be happy but what fool cares if you are happy. This coach is being paid big bucks to deliver, and he is not doing it.
Excuses and trips to the Amazon and skydiving, and Hawk love, what a bunch of crap.
The guy needs to lock himself in the Dal Ward Center once the season is over on Nov. 28th, no vacation and no breaks except for recruiting, and figure out what the heck he wants to do on offense, and who to hire to make that happen (and add a special teams coach too. I would go get Mike Hankowitz away from Northwestern to help Coach Cabral with the defense and coach special teams).
Go Buffs!!!
Posted by bzainthemd on November 16, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Man the return of rswright. Brings up money again when nobody is talking about it. rs, nobody is firing Hawk. And assistant coaches don't have buyouts. We can fire assistant coaches and hire new ones, without screwing that much with the budget that you care so deeply about. My god, you can't talk about anything else, can you?
Posted by BUFFAV8RNTX on November 16, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
According to Rivals- Jordan Wynn has decommitted from CU in favor of Utah.
Oh well, I will not lose too much sleep over losing a 3 star average sized/average ability QB. From what I've seen Clark Evans is the better prospect anyway.
On the plus side, it looks like we picked up a JUCO transer WR from Kansas. 6'3" 195, which is a nice size. I think this will be the season of WR recruits.
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 16, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Isn't that odd about Wynn? I wonder why a QB would have second thoughts?
Posted by nycbuffman08 on November 16, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you think Aric Goodman reads this? If you do, I just want to tell you that you really suck
Posted by lobobuff on November 16, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"All coaching is, is taking a player where he can't take himself."
-Bill McCartney
I believe Hawkins can recruit and he has done many positive things to improve the fan base, but eventually he must win. He's been around. He knows that.
Go Buffs, shuck the Corn!
I fully expect him to do it his way. Good coaches get players to excel or they surround themselves with assistants who can. Nature of the business. The best do both.
Next year, when all the players are his, and if he doesn't make any coaching changes, is the year he must show that his way will work.
Posted by kalexpol on November 16, 2008 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it possible that this team has had so many injuries because of a poor conditioning program? Makes me wonder.
Posted by BuffTime on November 16, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 16, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Isn't that odd about Wynn? I wonder why a QB would have second thoughts?"
No it isn't unusual that kids change their mind. Maybe he is scared off by Hansen. Who knows. I guess you could ask that insider you know. You know the one, he is leading the insurrection against Hawk within the team. Which player was that again?
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 17, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bufftime, you're misstating my comments again. I certainly never said I know a player who is leading an insurrection. I did say that Cody cannot be an effective leader because he is such a poor athlete. The real athletes on the team won't respect him because they know he could never do the things he is telling them to do.
Now add to that the subjectivety of the father/son relationship and the high profile nature of being a BCS QB and all the attention that comes with that position.
Now add to that the fact that there are many players on the team (not just QB's) who have a stronger arm that Cody. Now add to that the fact that he is one of the smallest people on the team and is slower than many linemen and you have a situation resulting in derision rather than respect.
There is simply no way to be an effective leader when your teammates think they are being told by the coach that his small, slow, weak-armed son is their "leader."
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 17, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wynn isn't coming to CU because Cody has the job locked up for two more years!
Wynn wants to play early! Utah has a senior QB and the other QB's he will be competing with at Utah are not related to the head coach.
As many people have said, making Cody the starter would inhibit our QB recruiting for years to come. This is clearly an example of that. There have undoubtedly been many other QB's who refuse to even condider CU as long as the coach's son is here.
Posted by BuffTime on November 17, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm not misstating anything whosa. You made a direct statement that "players on the team do not respect Cody". I simply asked your source for such a statement. You want to argue the thoughts in your head as if they are factual and they are not. YOU have a problem with Cody. NOT the players on the team. Never once has a player on the team expressed to the media or any of us that they have a problem with Cody or that they think Cody is not qualified or the best player. Just because you think it does not make it so.
Unless you have a statement from Wynn then you have no right to make a claim on his behalf. Has Wynn come forward and said that the reason he changed his mind is because Cody "has the job locked up for two more years!"? No. This is in your head. Just like the other voices in there, this is not real. The FACT is you have no idea why Wynn has reconsidered. Cody being the coaches kid apparently had no bearing on his initial decision to choose CU (and Cody was the unquestioned starter when Wynn committed). So why would it suddenly be a concern now that Hansen has taken some significant playing time away from Cody and showed an opening is there for someone to take?
As for having Cody impact our QB recruiting, guess what? Cody was an upgrade from what we had when he came in. Hansen was an upgrade on Cody and Evans is an upgrade too. SO where is your proof of your accusation? Again, thoughts in your head are not proof.
Exactly what was the parade of all-American QBs that have a long history of coming to CU? Where is the pipeline that dried up all of a sudden? CU has not attracted elite level QBs for years. Hawk brought in Cody in his first class (he was highly regarded and highly recruited) and then he brought in Ballenger in the next class and Hansen in the next class and now Evans and who knows who else.
We need an upgrade at many more positions than QB. We are now starting to attract WRs who will help out the offense immensely just by showing up and being qualified to play. They will help make whomever is QB look good. Oh, but that might be part of the grand conspiracy to make Cody look good... right.
No one is misstating anything fomr you but you.
Posted by buffalo_flyer on November 17, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
maybe we could get the DC to run an "misc" article concurrent with the other articles which would give everyone a spot to voice totally off topic opinions
I'm getting sick of wyd and everyone else posting the SAME MF'ING POST IN TWO MF'ING ARTICLES
Posted by cubuff85 on November 17, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Damn, WhosYourDaddy just got b-slapped!
Posted by WhosYourDaddy on November 17, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tough luck who cares what you're sick of. I'm sick of you defending nepotism too, but you're welcome to spout off all you want about how great little Cody is. I'll continue to point out his deficiencies.
Let's review: Very Small! Very Slow! Very Weak-Arm! Couldn't hit a bus at 10 yards! But he won all his midget games!
Posted by BuffTime on November 17, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Does anyone connected to the team have any insight into a walk on WR named Peter Bobseine. He is a true freshman this year and is 6'4". Does he have any real potential or is he just a tall kid who wants to play football?
Posted by roamingbuff on November 17, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Buffs could be much better next year. Given how tough the schedule was this year, and given how young the team is, and given how many key players are injured - I think the Buffs are doing pretty good. I'm not happy about 6 and 5 - but you have to put things in perspective.
Think baout the potential next year. Look at the schedule for starters. Buffs could pick up a couple more wins on that issue alone.
Then you look at the players who should be back from the injury list. Then look at how much actual game expience the younger players got this year. Look at the players who should be on the roster next year - like Major, Kota, Simas, Periak, Polk etc.
Buffs could turn a corner next year. In the meantime - this is when the rest of the "team" needs to step up, now more than ever. By that I mean the fans. The real fans. Not the fair weather folks. Not the complainers. The real fans need to be there and support the team.
Get excited about the future. Tell people about what CU has going on. Get other former Buffs off the sideline. Donate cash. Fight to change the rules about contracts for asistant coaches.
Folks - if you want change - make it happen. Don't just post complaints on a website. Get it done! Get after it! Do the things that are out of the hands of the althetes, like Buff Club donations and assitant coaches salaries and contracts.
You want change - make it happen. They do it in places like USC and Texas etc. You want to play with them - step up - cuz we are way behind those programs. It goes well beyond just coaches and players. It starts with the fans base.
Maybe they should have a website where the coaches and administration can complain about the lame fans who don't pony up the money and don't show up at the games. Imagine what it would be like if they complained about us as much as some of us complain and criticise them.
We could complain about a 3rd down call. They could complain about the bone-head who threw stuff onto the field.
Donate what you can. I don't care if it's ten bucks or ten thousand. Instead of spending money on a recruiting website, send that cash to CU. That way you avoid the post season gossip and do something that will actually help the program.
O-kay - sorry for the rant, but it's true.
Posted by roamingbuff on November 17, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
and check that - of course I mean 5 and 6.
Posted by CABuffalo on November 17, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Excellent post BuffTime - it gets really annoying hearing people spout off continuous nonsense with nothing to back it up but their own OPINIONS. I guess critical thinking isn't being taught in our education system anymore.
I'm not drinking the Coach Hawk Kool Aid just yet, but I will say I don't think he is the problem; he's been doing something here that hasn't been done in awhile, and that's RECRUIT TALENT. That's the only way a program is going to get better and he has been doing so thus far. As pointed out numerous times, and I agreee with the sentiment - Riddle and Helfrich need to look for new jobs. I would also tweak my offensive philosophy a little if I were Hawk. And one last rant - I still want to know what the &%#$@! happened to Ballenger...
Posted by reallifeshocker on November 17, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i watched this game...every second on abc. we looked like a high-school team. i realize that former star quarterback gundy is enamored with realy big, fast, strong, and skilled atheletes. and other than texas and ou, most teams do not look all that imposing next to okie state. our wideouts looked too skinny, slow, and weak to play for the ku phi delts, much less big-12 elite. you may desire to "salt" your team with the undersized walk-on who can catch anything his way, but this cannot be your "bread and butter" if championships are in your mind. until we get the studs on campus, we will get our thrills only when we can "surprise" somebody, and that will become even more difficult in the future. boys, "the jig is up".
Posted by buffs6236 on November 20, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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