Posted by walto_clown on July 21, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope they turn it around for next season. The absence of all three will hurt.

Posted by buff4life on July 21, 2008 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no kidding....every season we pretty much go thru something like this. what did ever happen with pt gates, and his status with us???? does this stuff happen with most schools every year????, tranfer credits, juco hours, classes taken, etc???

Posted by GoldenBoy on July 21, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thats HUGE news that Geer is eligible, his experience and playmaking ability gives a huge boost to our offense!

Posted by buff75 on July 21, 2008 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well you remember the article about Simas early this year gave a hint that he would be ineligible, but I held out hope he would see the field. I certainly hope he can learn from this and gain an education and show his potential on the field as well. I have flunked out of a college before, and I know how easy it is to blow off class and do other things. I blew my chance once and won't do it again. I only hope it's not too late for these guys. I hope our new recruits and future ones are as good in the classroom as they are on film. GO BUFFS!!!!

Posted by extrapoint on July 21, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ihope Marques is not charming us here and really does make the committment.

As far as Geer's situation, it does appear there were mitigating circumstances....like it does take 2 to fight regardless what rs wright says.
Another poster indicated a shared frustration in the details of the altercation from both sides of the story. Are the other parties being charged with anything? Are the police reports open for public viewing?
I think Geer has the potential to make fans forget those 2 guys from Mizzou.

Posted by rodrigo on July 21, 2008 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rs should show anytime now.

Posted by flabuff227 on July 21, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As far as geer being able to play- Justice has been served in my opinion. And also Boulder County prosecutors always make an offer you cant refuse so you dont take it to trial. I don blame him for taking the deal. Just put it behind you.

Hopefully simas can get an incomplete and learn from this. If not i gues we'll see him in 09'

Posted by clbuff on July 21, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PT couldn't cut it. Unlike Kstate or OU, athletic credits don't transfer into CU, you have to earn it in the class room. I am okay with CU having tougher admission requirements and academic standards than most of the Big XII. I like knowing my degree means I had to work harder and that the diploma on the wall isn't written on a Big Chief tablet in crayon like it would have been if I went to OU or Kstate.

Posted by ralphie9677 on July 21, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Every school has problems with players becoming ineligible for one reason or another. Its a reality of college sports. Certainly nothing new at CU. Someone else will have to step up.

Posted by BuffSteve on July 21, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Give them a smile"? "Charm your way through college"? What the heck is that? It's quite possible that this kid has absolutely no business being enrolled in a quality 4-year university.

Posted by flabuff227 on July 21, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He just needs to mature a little bit. Give him a chance.

Posted by BigBuff on July 21, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They redshirted him, the University offers all the support he could ever need. He couldn't pass basic Freshman level courses? Come on.........

Posted by flabuff227 on July 21, 2008 at 11:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well maybe they should just kick him off the team!

Posted by Ralphie2 on July 21, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

College is so f-ing easy. Just go to class. I'm sick of these kids getting in trouble and not being able to get C's in communications classes. This is getting stupid!

Posted by Odog on July 22, 2008 at 4:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally found the first year level courses much harder than the my junior and senior level courses.

Maybe it was a maturity thing. Maybe it was actually attending class more than 10% of the time.

These kids blew it. But they should and will get another shot. Just sucks Simas and Tau already burned their RS.

Posted by roscoebuff on July 22, 2008 at 4:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't be surprised if Celestine is ineligible also. Can Dusty Sprague return for a 7th year of eligibility?

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No sympathy for Simas on this one. I hope he doesnt 'convince' someone to give him an incomplete instead of an F. And good call by the post above, hopefully he isnt trying to 'charm' us into thinking he is staying.

I think its sad that ANY student athlete cant get passing grades during their red shirt year. Shows laziness and lack of commitment to himself and his team.

Same goes for Tau and Nate V.

Posted by ChicagoBuffsFan on July 22, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice going guys! Football and class, that's it. How hard can it be?

On the positive side, at least we'll have Riar Geer back. Maybe Simas can charm 1 prof and get that incomplete and regain eligibility.

You other 2, get your heads in those books. In a few years, if the NFL doesn't call, you still want to have a good education so you don't have to return home asking people if they want fries with that.

GO BUFFS!!!!!

Posted by earmuffs on July 22, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Not trying to justify Simas' actions or attitude but I do not entirely agree with archalon or Ralphie2 on this one. Although college may be easy for some, and looking back on my time at CU it certainly was easy as compared to work, others may have a harder time adjusting from high school to the college life and expectations.

Additionally, I definitely found some of the core classes I was required to take in my first year much more difficult than degree-specific classes (i.e. humanities which kicked my a$$).

From an educational perspective, I agree with archalon that Simas should not be able to merely convince his professor to give him an incomplete, notwithstanding mitigating circumstances to which we are not prive. From a purely football perspective, we need him on the field.

Posted by BlackAndGold on July 22, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When are these players going to get it through their heads that Colorado is not letting players slide like other D1 programs.

This is becoming a cycle that needs to be broken.

The NCAA acedemic standards are not high either. What do they require? A 2.0? 2.5?

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

On a positive academic note, according to the media guide, from 2002-2007 CU graduated 85.9% of its seniors ( 110-of 128 ) with 6 of the remaining 18 still in school and 4 in the NFL.

(Tragically, Lionel Harris was one of those graduates and BJax could have graduated next summer. )

It appears that many of the recent program recruits have had solid H.S. grades. I hope that continues and we quit having ineligble players

Posted by dabuffs50 on July 22, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am really glad Geer is going to be back, depth at TE is needed and can help the young ones come along

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From a football perspective, we dont 'need' anyone who cant take care of business in their personal or academic life. Period. He admits in the article to starting strong, getting lazy and trying to turn it on in the end. Do you really want a guy who's going to take the middle of a game off ? How about the middle of a season ? Or in a conference championship game ?

Sure - College is more difficult than H.S. - kinda the point, right ? some kids have a tough time adjusting. But he had a redshirt year to take care of it and didnt. Not like its going to get easier.

dont make excuses for an admittedly lazy daydreamer more concerned with drawing his next tattoo than paying attention in class. If he has a learning disability, he can get help. If he needs a tutor to focus, they are available. If he cant pass composition 101, basic algebra, sociology 101, or whatever, he is doing himself a disservice. College is not that hard - show up, do your work and be personally accountable and ANYONE can pass.

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geer will help immensely - Mcknight, Smith, Williams and Celestine (maybe) with Geer, Scott\Sumler and a rotation of Lockridge and Polk as third down backs, the offense will be just fine.

Posted by BuffMan6236 on July 22, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Correct me if I am wrong, but Geer still needs to avoid being suspended by CU's Office of Judicial Affairs , right?

Sipili sat out the year last year because of that.

I wouldn't count on him being on the field. That's just an extra at CU that other schools typically don't have. I flew on a plane back from the British Virgin Islands with an Oklahoma athletic department employee. He laughed when I asked him if OU had anything like that.

Posted by bufflover on July 22, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

damn that sucks

Posted by bufffan8 on July 22, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OJA lowered their penalty for Geer. He can play. If he gets in ANY trouble though he is gone. He is on double secret probation.

Posted by Ralphie2 on July 22, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

While I realize that college is easier for some than others, anyone with a pulse can pass a class just by showing up and doing the bare minimum. There's no question that CU is a much better school than most major DI schools. That being said, you have completely blow it to not pass a college class (unless its an engineering clas, which I don't think these dudes are taking).

GO BUFFS!!!

Posted by buffs1995 on July 22, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Simas needs to step up and realize he's at a 4-year University now. Someone also needs to be coaching these guys on what to say to the press! He makes himself look like an even bigger idiot by implying that he made it through high school by charming his teachers into giving him grades when he didn't do the work. And he says he's ready to step up but then follows that with saying he's trying to convince a professor to change a grade? Doesn't sound like much has changed there! The bigger issue here is a matter of self-respect and work ethic - without those we don't need him on the field!

Posted by rodrigo on July 22, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geer being able to play is much, much, much bigger news for the team than the three academic casualties.

For once I agree with Kenny: things happen... adversity strikes, winners overcome.

Posted by extrapoint on July 22, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

arch
dont forget Espinoza. He is a hungry kid with some great moves.

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

good call EP - Espinoza will surprise many I believe. Is he still the prime candidate at PR too ? Him and Stewart should greatly help the return game

Posted by BuffTime on July 22, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Hawk should take the same approach to academics that he does to injuries. If you don't put the effort in then you haul sand until you put it together in the classroom (or some equivalent).

Simas comes across as very immature in the few articles that I have read about him. He doesn't seem to be taking the classroom work very seriously which does not speak well for his work ethic. Maybe he has a learning disability that he has managed to charm his way out of being diagnosed. Sounds like his HS did him no favors by letting him slide all the time.

As far as expecting Hawk to stay on top of everyone's grades, that isn't how college works folks. Professors are under no obligation to babysit kids just because they are on scholarship (ironic term given the situation). Also, classes don't evenly weight grades throughout the semester, he could have been coasting below the radar and completely blew it on finals. How would Hawk prevent that?

These guys need to man up and get it done in the classroom. I would rather struggle on the field than put out a team of guys who are only pretending to be students. It is one thing to honestly try hard and just not make it, but by his own admission he slacked off. No excuses there. I just hope the other 2 guys worked a little harder and are unfairly being lumped in the same group with Simas.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on July 22, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geer won't play. OJA will come out on Aug 29 at 5 pm with a decision thats he ineligible for the year. This ain't OU where the entire city is on the football payroll

Posted by MadCityBuff on July 22, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ah geez, Simas.... Go to class, that is where you learn WHAT the professor WANTS you to know. You can't memorize a textbook, during lectures you hear what the prof is stressing, and that is what will be on the test. That is always my #1 tip to college bound folks. Hang in there guy.

Good news on the Geer situation. Go Buffs!

Posted by buffalotom on July 22, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

two points. one, it is sad that these guys are wasting an opportunity for a quality education, good diploma, and better earnings potential. everyone at that age is a little clueless in that regard, probably more so if one believes he can make a living as an athlete. i'm sure that message is drilled repeately into these guys - maybe a day per week of sand duty WOULD help.
two, good news on geer, bad new on tau. geer is a good receiver, too, but a good blocker at TE is important in this offense. tau is a big disappointment - the guard situation was quite unsettled at the end of spring ball, he could of been in the mix there. and, OT backups are now problematic - cross your fingers on injuries.

Posted by buffalotom on July 22, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

arch: could you provide a link to the site you mention, please? thanks!

Posted by flabuff227 on July 22, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if they will play or redshirt chance blackmon.

Posted by baBUFF on July 22, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a quote from Husker OL Matt Slauson at Big 12 media day I found on the Post:

"Before the Huskers traveled to Boulder last season for a 65-51 loss to CU, Slauson approached Callahan about wearing a buffalo skin jacket on the trip. Not a good idea, Callahan said.

"He said it may have sent the wrong message and he didn't want me to set myself apart from other players," Slauson recalled. "And in retrospect, it was a bad idea to even ask him. But I did get to wear it after the game (in Lincoln)."

Is this guy serious?? What kind of a dope do you have to be to walk around Lincoln in a buffalo skin jacket after you just got clobbered by the Buffs?

Posted by OutToPasture on July 22, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As much as I'd like to see Simas on the field, I hope that professor doesn't give him an incomplete. It would send a bad message to the kid and probably make him more likely to flounder in the future. Lots of freshman struggle with that first semester, but he didn't take care of business in the spring or in summer school. Sitting out a year might do this kid a lot of good in the long run by teaching him that he has to work for the things that matter.

Does Scott have good hands? It would be sweet to start in 2 back sets and motion Scott to the split where he can iso on a linebacker! Reggie Bush made a career of that at USC!

Posted by buff4life on July 22, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wearing a buffalo skin-boy that N really does stand for knowledge, what a true schmuck....more smoking too much of that "special" corn....must be the same clown that headbutted an OUtlaw bandmember....parents please dont let your kids grow up to be cornhuskers---the permanent damage is just awful....my favorite was cally the clown's throat slash errrrrr "i've had it up to here!!!" jesture.....62-36 has generated so much comedy in lincoln that's its almost too sad, but not really!!! thanx again gary!!!

Posted by archalon on July 22, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

buffalotom - you mean regarding grad stats ? Its in the media guide notes on cubuffs.com

Posted by flabuff227 on July 22, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've heard he has very good hands. I saw a few highlights of him catching the long ball. That is a very good thought. That would create a lot of matchup problems for opposing defenses.

Posted by NorCalLovesDaBuffs on July 22, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I remember Hawkins being sure Sipili was going to be able to play last year only to have the school give him the "Heisman". I would be suprised if Geer steps on the field this year, although I sure hope he does.

Posted by flabuff227 on July 22, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

havent heard that before. Next!

Posted by buff4life on July 22, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol, lol, lol, i remember taligal errrrrrrr dr tom from 3 years ago, and i quote "coach callahan is gonna bring his NFL and winning experience to lincoln and with sam keller gonna make the huskers a force again!!!! WE ARE BACK BABY!!!!!" lol, lol, lol, what happened???? and now your beloved, almost exticnt, program is in the hands of some hothead that tried to beat up coach synder at KSU after a game, coach synder was 70 years old for christ sakes!!!! and after the first 5 games this season taligal gonna be talking big 12 title and BCS game nonsense and then after the iowa state game you will catch him at a nu home game with his "BO MUST GO-WE WANT TURNER" sign. of course that coward osbourne could return to the sidelines under AARP guidelines....

Posted by buffalo_flyer on July 22, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If the huskers start 0-1, Bo is suddenly sitting on the hottest seat in the country

Posted by bufffan8 on July 22, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NorCal - hope you are wrong. The media guide says the OJA has already made their decision in the Geer case and they reduced his penalty. I can't say I know for sure, but I'd be surprised if they came back and changed their ruling again.

Posted by buffalotom on July 22, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

arch:
sorry, wrong thread: the source you alluded to was posted on the comment portion of woelk's most recent article:

you said: "no - but the same that scooped the regular media on D Scott's Algreba class"
i'd like, if you can, a link to the site to which to refer in this quote, i.e., "the same" refers to what source?

thanks!

Posted by colorado2986 on July 22, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is something wrong with the landscape of college athletics, he failed 3 classes his first year and was still in school! WTF!!

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on July 22, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The basketweaving classes must be getting more difficult!

Posted by extrapoint on July 22, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Scott as a receiver?
with 4.32 speed ......hmmmmm.
J-fly on one side, Scott on the other.....
didnt Tall mention we had no speed on O?

Posted by buff4life on July 22, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

at least at cu basketweaving is a class. at nu, ou and ut you dont even have to go to class, get free balco injections-ask roger clemmens, jason peter and that bafoon brian bosworth, and at those schools players get paid for their performance....oklahoma, texas and nebraska should play in AFC not the big 12. good to see that taligal's boyfriend "whos your daddy" is back on the scene-you two girlie chumps make a great couple-"hawk sucks!!! "boulder is a terrible place!!" da hah da hah

Posted by mewag28 on July 22, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DUDEs, I went to CU and it is NOT HARD to get B's and even A's. Hell I even smoked weed most days and had well above a 3.0.

You are getting a free ride for Christ's sake. Sima should be spending 12 hours a day getting his incomplete completed and getting a B or better in his other course.

Really, these guys aren't taking Chemistry or Pre Med.

Sorry, but how dumb are these jocks??? They get in fights, can't pass simple Sociology classes, etc. They are given so much, just to have the physical body to be able to play big time football, and so many of them screw up the opportunity.

Sima, have a good breakfast and then go to the library and read the stuff, and then read it again, and then again.

Or go the F home!

Sorry!

Posted by baBUFF on July 22, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mewag, it's completely out of line to lump all athletes together as "dumb jocks" that "get in fights". Athletes who fight or blow it in school are the exception, not the rule, and i would take offense to that if I was one of the other student athletes that get good grades, are good people, and generally represent the University well.

That said, what bother me the most about this Simas situation is that he's been here for 2 full semesters plus one summer term. I'm assuming then that he knew his grades were poor long before this summer. Either he was barely squeeking by until his summer session brought his cumulative GPA down, or he was already there and didn't bring it up. Either way, he should have known long before now that he needed to get his stuff together in class. Doesn't speak well about his work ethic at all particularly because he was a REDSHIRT!

I hope they don't give him the incomplete he needs, and instead has to earn his eligibility back the old fashioned way - by studying.

Posted by ColoradoAthlete on July 22, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is no disagreeing with the fact the Markques screwed up, nor is it acceptable for him to have subpar grades with the amount of help that the athletic department provides for each athlete, however as an athlete I feel that some of these comments are ignorant and ill- informed. First and foremost the person writing the comment asking how hard football and school could be obviously is not an athlete and does not know the dedication involved. The football boys spend as much time practicing, lifting, running, watching film, and having meetings as someone with a part time job. They attend classes all morning and have meetings from around 1:30 until 7:00. That is purely the football portion of the equation, not to mention the manditory eight hours of study hall per week and the bi-weekly academic meetings which brings up the point that CU isn't providing enough academic help. Each athlete has an academic coordinator who knows about every assignment, test or paper the athlete is required to do. The athletes are also provided with as many tutors as they need for any subject. So to those making comments without knowing the ins and outs of the life of an athlete, I suggest you take a step back and judge yourself instead of someone else.

As far as the boys not making grades, its no ones fault but their own and I'm sure that they know this and having to sit out from a sport that provides them with opportunities and is something they love to play is a terrible punishment in itself. If any one of you would like to step up and try to live the life of a football player I'd urge you to try and do the things they do and then try to make a judgement call.

The comment about the fights is extremely one sided. Do any of you know how much athletes are provoked. People find it entertaining to get drunk and try to fight football players. How much are these boys supposed to take. Night after night they take harassment and degrading comments, anyone would break after so much.

Again I'd like to reiterate that I'm not excusing the actions of any of these boys nor condoning the lack of commitment to a good education, but to judge these boys without knowing them, their situations, or anything they're going through is ignorant and petty. Its so easy to sit back and watch those in the spotlight fall while ignoring the faults you posses so consider this the next time you decide to make a comment.

Posted by mewag28 on July 22, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I realize that! I knows guys like Cody, Ryan Miller, and hopefully Darrel Scott realize they have a great opportunity and a big part of it is getting a good education that will affect the rest of their lives.

But still too many "jocks" only are concerned about themselves and the present moment.

I thought it was great that Cody got to go to Peru (though I'll bet he didn't hike the Inca trail for 3 days to Macchu Puchu as I did) as travel is IMO the most rewarding learnig experience. Many jocks couldn't care less about travel and would rather go to Vegas.

Sorry, but jocks are a lot like pretty girls. There is no law they have to be dumb and some are indeed very smart and use their god-given assetts as a spring board. Many, if not most, think they already have it made and hence do not apply themselves.

Posted by oz_in_cali on July 22, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Unfortunately, at a school like CU and in a town like Boulder, it can be really hard for a wet-behind-the-ears kid fresh outta high school to focus on what they are supposed to focus on. I don't mean to excuse these guys (they are scholarship athletes who have an obligation), but anyone who has been in this unique situation, knows what I am talking about.

Looking back at my own personal experience, it was hard for me, and I had the benefit of 2 years in the army and 3 semesters at the University of Puerto Rico under my belt (not to mention that I didn't play for the Buffs and had only to worry about school and a part-time job). Anyone who has been on the CU campus on a sunny Fall or Spring afternoon knows that it can be difficult to keep your eyes in a book, with all of the exquisite beauty (nature as well as women) all around you, not to mention the availibilty of pretty much whatever you want (alcohol, sex, drugs, etc...) on the hill or somewhere in town. My point being that there is a lot more to distract or allow a young immature student to get into trouble in Boulder than there is in, say, Lincoln or Ames.

To the guy who said "Nice going guys! Football and class, that's it. How hard can it be?", It can be really hard.

Having said that, these guys have an obligation to the school if they are on scholarship, and as such need to take care of business or get the hell out. Simas seems like a nice KID that has a thing or two to learn about discretion (case in point - if you plan to lobby a professor for an incomplete, don't go advertizing - especially, not in the local newspaper. If that professor reads the sports page, my guess is that young Mr. Simas can pretty much kiss that "incomplete" goodbye).

I hope that, no matter what happens, he can do whatever it takes to get back into good standing (provided he can remain enrolled), and that he can someday become they student and player he came to Boulder to be.

GO BUFFS!!!

Posted by baBUFF on July 22, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mewag, that is one of the most idiotic posts I have ever read. Talk about painting all athletes with the same brush. "jocks are a lot like pretty girls" - well I'm sorry if jocks show no interest in you either.

Also, no one gives a damn about your Machu Pichu trip, save it for your friends who won't care either.

ColoradoAthlete - thanks for the insider's perspective, I just feel that if all the other kids managed to get the grades while playing football, maybe Simas could have done it too. I hope he gets back on track, I'd love to see him play. And sorry you have to hear garbage like this from real morons.

Posted by Black_Rob on July 22, 2008 at 5:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice generalizations there mewag28.

Claiming how worldly you are with all your travels is a nice touch too.

One would think that somebody soooo in touch with life, would realize the irony of throwing all these guys in the same group.

Keep up the good work.

Posted by Black_Rob on July 22, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks ColoradoAthlete.

There are a couple real knuckleheads on this site. Mewag just gave the other one a run for his money.

Posted by mewag28 on July 22, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Clearly, there are a lot of dumb jocks on this thread! Ones who get easily hurt like puppy dogs. boo hoo! I think SeattleBuff is not a jock but a groupie and just dumb and lacking a life; hence on this board so much

Actually I had numerous drop dead gorgeous girls while at CU and I barely mentioned my various travels which include something like 12 or 13 trips to each of South America and Asia as well as a few to Europe and Africa. And that was to make a valid point about learning. I'll bet a dumb woose like you can't figure out why anyone would ever even want to travel outside the the US.

I'll bet you think Bush is other than a complete idiot too.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 22, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mewag - wow. Other than telling us all of your United 1k status and numerous romps with "drop dead gorgeous girls" what is your point? You say "Many, if not most (jocks), think they already have it made and hence do not apply themselves." 3 out of 100 are not eligible for the coming year. That's 3% here in the US. Perhaps in your many trips abroad you've found that 3% is considered high, but here in the US 3% is not close to "many" or "most". By the way, more than jocks like to go to Vegas. Good or bad Vegas is one of the top tourists destinations in the world.

Posted by mifrfi on July 22, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are so full of yourself mewag28 that you fail to see your own ignorance.

Thanks ColoradoAthlete, nice to get a dose of reality from an inside perspective.

Posted by extrapoint on July 22, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow
mewag barely mentioning anything us laughable. We got some serious overcompensating here folks and someone who actually makes tall look normal.

Maybe he is "the most interesting man in the world" you see in the dos xx commercials......then again....is it tall off his meds?

Posted by flabuff227 on July 23, 2008 at 1:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coloradoathlete- Maybe you could explain that to rs wright because everything is one-sided with him.

I understand jealousy and how it can turn into a fight!

Posted by flabuff227 on July 23, 2008 at 1:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

forget it fellas! mewag 28 hasn't been anywhere but his parents basement!

Mewag- "a bunch of dumb jocks". So what are you?

Oh and i will work you when it comes to the ladies. Come visit me in south florida u punk!

Posted by flabuff227 on July 23, 2008 at 2:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

She does make tall look normal but if she wants to receive my address, i'd give it to her.

Posted by rodrigo on July 23, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Today's instant poll:

Who would you rather date your daughter: George Hypolite or megawang.

Is this guy actually trying to convince us - or himself - that he's got it going on?

Posted by flabuff227 on July 23, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rodrido- What are you talking about? She does got it going on!

We better get use to it, closer to football season the more these girls wanna find a mate!

Posted by archalon on July 23, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Biffalotom - site was http://buffscoop.com/ - alot seems sensationalist though, so dont know how much stock anyone should put in their info yet.

Coloradoathlete - Thank you for the perspective. However I think one thing should be made clear: regardless of time committments, there is no reason for a scholarship athlete to fail if they put the effort in. That is the nature of a free education for playing ball. I went through it myself and yes its tough on time, but it is doable.

Posted by archalon on July 23, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hypolite had the right attitude:

Q. You got a degree in three years. Do you think some student-athletes don't set the bar high enough and think five years and may not even get it in five years?

GH: I think that comes down to student-athlete visibility. A lot of people go, 'Well, you set the bar at five years.' Well there are a lot of students who don't get a degree in five years. There are a lot of regular students, most regular students want to stick around in college for five years. For me, I was just driven to do that. I wanted to get my degrees in three years so I could play my senior year without having that looming over me. It was a big push from the moment I stepped on campus and I pushed it that way. I think that's all just me and it's not saying anything about there was something special about me. That was just my goal. I think if student-athletes come to college with goals on what to do academically as well as athletically, they will have a better shot at it.

Posted by extrapoint on July 23, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You, and most fooball players kicked mybutt.
It took me 6 years. I didnt want to leave Boulder any sooner than I had to.

Posted by buffalotom on July 23, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

arch: thanks!
from yesterday's longmont times-call:

QUOTEWORTHY: Nebraska quarterback Joe Ganz, on if he ever feels sorry for cornerbacks who have to play in the Big 12:

“I never feel sorry for cornerbacks, especially the Colorado and Kansas ones.”

Posted by buffalotom on July 23, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and, a good podcast, first item.
http://fm1043thefan.com/theSportsGuys...

Posted by archalon on July 23, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He threw 7 picks against those DBs - no wonder he doesnt like them

Expect more this year, he has a glass chin in the pocket and cant read complex coverages.

Reference the CU game, second half.

Posted by mewag28 on July 23, 2008 at 4:31 p.m.

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Posted by walto_clown on July 23, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Colorado Athlete,

Thanks for your perspective, and thanks additionally for your hard work while representing our University. I appreciate how difficult it can be for some student athletes to transition from high school to an environment that's considerably more demanding from both an academic and athletic perspective.

Please also recoginize the perspective of the Colorado Football Fan. We love our team and sometimes invest a disproportionate amount of emotion in that team's performance. I often wonder how I can care so much about something over which I enjoy no control.

After spending months speculating how our team will perform this coming season, we were handed a blow, when we learned of the loss of three players we anticipated would be key. It's my opinion that we were particularly disappointed in Mr. Simas due to high expectations following his performance on the scout team last season evidenced by Coach Brown's off season remarks regarding Simas knack for finding himself open.

Posts which lash out at Simas likely represent two emotions. The first is disappointment as explained above. The second is a little more complicated. The relationship between the team and the fans is symbiotic. The team needs the fans as much (and probably more) than the fans need the team. When a player fails to recognize the importance of the fans and appears unappreciative of his scholarship, he's likely to stir some emotion. I suspect we feel a little taken for granted.

At the end of the day, it's about getting degrees for our CU athletes while they represent our university on and off the field. I hope the staff and veteran players find success in instilling these values in our three wayward players.

Can't wait for the season to begin! Go Buffs!!!

Posted by extrapoint on July 23, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mewag
dude ....you just blew your cover
Tall
can you step in and tell mewag just how weak that was?
All these "drop dead gorgeous" women must be 13 years old.

Posted by rodrigo on July 23, 2008 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice homophobic response megawang. Calling someone gay... Is that clever? Or funny? Or just incredibly pathetic? Should I be insulted? Gay?!?!?!? Seriously. Sounds to me like you never made it out of junior high.

Posted by troutman5 on July 23, 2008 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey arch i guess you've never ever been guilty of procrastination like the rest of us human beings have... give the kid a break man i'm sure his procrastination in the classroom has nothing to do with his work ethic on the football field! oh and sorry for not feeling bad for saying it but i sure as hell hope he gets that incomplete sure would add a little bit more of an "x" factor to the offense.... cant wait for csu!!!!!

Posted by loyalgirl on July 24, 2008 at 4:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LETS FACE IT. This LITTLE incident that Geer was involved in was a BRAWL, nothing more. His case should have been thrown out from the get go. The two so called "victims" are little freaking rich kids with overbearing parents who need a slap of real life. Boys you are in college now. GROW UP and get off of the mommy and daddy save me kick. I took it upon myself and read the prelim report. It's amazing to me that no one has mentioned that the two "victims" were underage and intoxicated, is it just me or should they have been charged as well. Seriously, we proclaim to live in a just society and yet we only go after one kid who happens to be the largest. Dear lord there were 12 kids involved, no one seems to have mentioned that.

Geer show them all up, be stronger, play harder, and stay vigilant. This too shall pass. I pray that this case is dropped everyday. Back when I was in college boys would have broken bones and there were no charges made. This is a waste of time and money. I love knowing where my tax dollars go to.. ugh. What a waste.

Posted by archalon on July 24, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Troutman5 - yes, I have been guilty of procrastination. Your point ?

But Simas failing 3 classes in three semesters during his REDSHIRT year is more than procrastination. Its immaturity,laziness, apathy, lack of urgency and a whole lot of other things - but it isnt procrastination.

Posted by archalon on July 24, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

good points, loyalgirl. If 12 were involved, why is only 1 charged ?

doesnt excuse the action, but shows bias somewhere - media, court, public opinion or otherwise

Posted by extrapoint on July 24, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm willing to bet there were 11 lawyers that cost a lot more than Geer's who were hired by some rich old daddies.

It was probably easy for most of the other offenders to synchronize their story and outnumber Geer greatly

Posted by rswright on July 24, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geer can play and the rest is history. Go Buffs!

No thanks to our posters. Some dingalings, like EP are still trying to make excuses. If you have an excuse don't plead guilty. If you plead guilty you have no excuse. There is no doubt that football players get provoked, but the issue is whether he was guilty of an assault. Guilty means that you don't have a defense. No more "kids will be kids", "innocent until proven guilty", "takes two to tango" "getting your butt kicked is the consequence of making a poor decision".
Let it go. Making excuses when he plead guilty
is just ammunition to those who want to show football players and its fans are all out of control. All you did was help. Way to go EP, Rodrigo, ba. At least no more proclamations from our posters who righteously declare if he is guilty, then he should suffer his punishment, (Just as long as long as it doesn't interfere with football, nudge, nudge, wink, wink)which don't fool anyone.

Gratefully, for CU and Geer it is history.

Posted by houston_buff on July 24, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ODog-4:28am posting??!! Sounds like an ODOG I used to roll with at the Sig Ep House with a few other big beaks in 85-87. Hope I dont "out" you.

Posted by rodrigo on July 24, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh, now rs admits there is no doubt CU football players are provoked, exactly the point ep has been making since April when Geer was charged.

ep: 1

rs: backpedal faster, moron.

Posted by extrapoint on July 25, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rs is spinning so fast he is going to drill himself into the ground. Look for some more oil while you are down there.
Talls vendetta is against Hawk; but rs, the king of denial, is against everyone else who posts here.
I think rs, Tall and mewag should don capes, proclaim themselves some kind of superhero and try and one up each other.
rs could be "Elmer Fudd Man"
"I'll get you wascally wabbits if it is the wast thing I ever do!"

Posted by rswright on July 25, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guilty means no excuse, no provocation, no innocent until proven guilty, no kids will be kids, no spin. If Geer had any doubt of his guilt he should not have plead guilty. But when he did it was over.
It's only our posters who keep spinning. "there were mitigating circumstances". EP, Guilty means there weren't any mitigating circumstances. Face the facts like grown up people do. Guilty is forever. Let it go. And poor Rodrigo, who first proclaimed that Geer was "innocent until proven guilty" on these posts,it's time to admit you were wrong. Wrong to say
"innocent until proven guilty is in the consitution and wrong to say the right to bear arms isn't and wrong on Geer. Geer wasn't innocent until proven guilty he was guilty all along.
Try not to be so out of control next time.

Posted by extrapoint on July 25, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry rs
what you call excuses is actually what happened.
and quit pretending you are happy about the outcome.
You had Geer and every other team member "thrown under the bus"
you are biggest hypocrit I have ever seen.

You still refuse to admit mitigating circumstances or legal negotiations exist.
You are still a fundamentalist and fundalmentalists are a$$holes. Fundamentalists are also insecure pinheads who cant think past black and white.

You belong in a cave just across the Afghan-Pakistan border

Posted by extrapoint on July 25, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a better idea
If we all admit we are wrong rs, will you go away?
That seems to be your crusade here. I have a feeling anything to do with the football team has taken a back seat to your ego....ergo your sensless and conflicting arguments.

Posted by loyalgirl on July 25, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like to me that rs has particular interest in the "victims". If the public wanted to know what their mothers, fathers, family and or friends had to say, we would have asked. Honestly, Geer in my opinion took the deal so that he could play. Otherwise he would have had to wait for trail which wouldn't be for months. I am appeased that he will be playing this year. Geer clearly has potential, if he didn't there wouldn't be such press on this BRAWL. Be wary football players you have people in every corner trying to fail you.

As for RS I agree with extra you do belong in a cave in that hell hole. Believe me I've been to the afghan - pak border, life and common sense become innate there... imagine that.

Maybe you should get a copy of the prelim report, THE TRUTH ALWAYS COMES OUT, WRIGHT ;) (play on words incase your common sense left your grape like it has before) right for wright -- get it?

Mitigating circumstances!!! Thats all I have to say.
FACTS ARE FACTS your little victims were underage drinkers
Geer was involved in a brawl, NOTHING MORE!

Posted by OutToPasture on July 25, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're right, rs, guilty is guilty. Corporations never settle lawsuits because it's cheaper than fighting them and people never make pleas so that they can just get on with their lives.

Congratulations, you told us! Hopefully your string of good luck will continue and they'll abolish the football program by the end of the year. Then Bohn will finally have more time to dedicate to raising funds for the improvement of the tennis facility!

Posted by rodrigo on July 25, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rs, I was the one who pointed out innocent until proven guilty is no where in the constitution. Get your facts straight. Don't argue. Just back through the posts. It's there in black and white for anyone who can read.

Now Geer has admitted his guilty, so he's guilty. I never said he was innocent. He should pay whatever price is deemed worthy and we can all move on.

I know that's extremely hard for you but the rest of us will.

Posted by rswright on July 25, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Welcome, welcome, loyalgirl to the posts. However the gender is a fake because no girl (especially a CU grad)
spells that badly. (of course it could be brain aka doc weasel, with a nom de plume).
However the logic is just as bad as our other posters. I.E.
"Geer in my opinion took the deal so that he could play. Otherwise he would have had to wait for trail which wouldn't be for months.

First, Geer and his attorney knew that if he wanted a speedy trial he is entitled to one guaranteed in the Constitution (note: Rodrigo)so he did not have to wait months. He could have had his trial and still played football. No one knows why he plead guilty other than his attorney probably advised him he had little chance at trial to be found innocent.

Secondly,pleading guilty to a crime is serious. If there are injuries his guilty plea will be used against him in a civil trial (ask Sipli). His record could last forever. Employment applications ask as to arrests and convictions. It is a matter to be taken very seriously and has far greater consequences than playing football. So welcome to the posts, but try to think a little before the next one.

Glad for CU and Geer it is over. Nor does it matter whether you believe it or not. Maybe pointing out that you guys don't think straight will help you from being "out of control" next time.

Rodrigo: one of the benefits of cut and paste is that you quote the author. I looked it up. No, I won't argue with you because you were wrong. Innocent until proven guilty isn't in the Constitution and the right to bear arms is. You got them backwards. And you are wrong that you didn't say Geer was innocent, saying he is innocent until proven guilty is saying he is innocent. You can't even appreciate your own words. Finally, you said he was innocent until proven guilty not because you believed he was innocent but because until he was proven guilty he could still play football. And you want him to pay the price just as long as the price means he can play football. Football first, everything else (including justice) second.

Posted by rodrigo on July 25, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Saying he is innocent until proven guilty is saying he is innocent?"

Really? Do you believe that?

We don't think straight? Are you serious?

Posted by rodrigo on July 25, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Speaking of cut and paste, here you go:

"The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not establish the right to keep and bear arms. None of the provisions of the Constitution establish any "natural" rights."

Source: http://www.constitution.org/leglrkba.htm

and:

"The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice. However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury."

Source: http://www.usconstitution.net/constno...

There. That should clear up any confusion.

Posted by extrapoint on July 25, 2008 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First, Geer and his attorney knew that if he wanted a speedy trial he is entitled to one guaranteed in the Constitution (note: Rodrigo)so he did not have to wait months. He could have had his trial and still played football. No one knows why he plead guilty other than his attorney probably advised him he had little chance at trial to be found innocent.
posted by rswright, lawyer to the Taliban

Isnt it great that when you are thinking straight you always know what someone else is thinking?

Lets analyze that last sentence. He starts out by saying "No one knows why he plead guilty..." and then rs goes right ahead and tells us anyway. I need some of that juice you have been drinking dude.

Fall practice starts in less than a month and rswright obviously has no idea of the logistics of the justice system. Speedy is a relative term but we all know that word relative is not in the fundamentalists' dictionary.

Geer has pro prospect written all over him and loyalgirl is thinking straight.

The difference between a felony and a misdemeanor is another concept rs cant understand because it is a question of degree, once again, something a fundamentalist is unable to understand. Prosecutors will always charge you with everything and anything they can think of that might be remotely connected to a case every time with bargaining leverage in mind. Of course to a fundamentalist if you are charged you are guilty, something rs has emitted several times.

Finally rs says he wont argue with rodrigo and then he goes ahead and does it anyway with another one of his anal, undecipheral, pointless mountain out of a molehill dissertations about innocent until proven guilty.

Why dont you exercise some of that great control, rs, and straighten out your sock drawer. There has to be at least one pair crosswise with the others.

Posted by loyalgirl on July 26, 2008 at 6:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, extrapoint. Amen

Posted by archalon on July 26, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditto the amen for EP.
Loyalgirl - for future reference, RS is a marginalized blowhard. His point of view is dismissive.

Although all the details are not known, such as whether the deal was done with the guidance of OJA, its done and life will go on.

Thats all that matters, football or not.

Posted by rswright on July 26, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rodrigo: the only confusion is in your memory. Your own source confirms you were wrong from the first time you stated "innocent until proven guilty" is in the Constitution. Your own source states "However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution."
Next, look in the Constitution. 2nd Amendment recognizes the right to bear arms. One does not need any source other than the Constitution to tell you that.
You must be an old guy.

EP says, "Speedy is a relative term but we all know that word relative is not in the fundamentalists' dictionary.".
This fundamentalist's dictionary states that the Constitution guarantees the right to a speedy trial and in most states that is within a month of being arraigned. So Geer could have had his trial months ago but chose not to. (it was in the Camera). Learning is fundamental, try it.

At least you didn't try to say he plead guilty to play football.

Stop living in the world of spin ep. It is fundamental that being picked is no defense to assault. Nor is there any evidence Geer was picked on. You live in a world of spin where every football player that commits an assault was picked on by bad, bad hippies and is a victim. Guilty is fundamental. It means no self defense,no provocation,no bad hippies,not a victim. Until you and loyal learn that you live in a world of spin.

Good old Arch. Still hating CU and loving football Arch? Talk about dismissive.

Posted by extrapoint on July 26, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hmmmm
I didnt realize the word "month" was in the constitution
thanks for filling me in rs
also thanks for filling me in that there was no provocation.
Let me take my turn at rerading minds.
We are all still waiting for the details of when you got your buttocks kicked by provoking a football player

Posted by rodrigo on July 26, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, since rs is so solid at telling us all what and how to think, I guess from this point forward I'll just let him make my posts on this topic for me.

That way he can engage in this absurd dialogue with himself and ultimately feel vindicated when the world conforms to his delusions.

Knock yourself out, compadre.

Posted by oz_in_cali on July 26, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet that rswright was on of those people, who when they commented in the class you would hear a collective groan from everyone in the room (including the professor). We all know the type. The ones that like to hear them self talk, and confuse convoluted circular logic with a well thought out discourse.

Probably, just another one of Dr. Tom's alter-ego. Good thing he is mildly entertaining and good for a chuckle.

Keep flyin' those flags of discontent, soapbox boy.

Posted by rodrigo on July 26, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bullseye.

Posted by loyalgirl on July 27, 2008 at 3:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is it me, or does it just sound like RS talks circles in order to convince himself of his own unique thought process?!?