Posted by earmuffs on February 7, 2008 at 6:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone else think that Coach Cabral, as well as others in the business, has a duty to report recruiting improprieties to the NCAA.
How can we ever have a level playing field if no one is willing to stand up and try and enforce the rules?

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Suddenly silent this morning are the folks who two years ago insisted that Dan Hawkins would be in over his head when it came to recruiting in the Big 12. (above)

Wrong again. They will just find something else to bitch about.
I think earmuffs should apply for a job as an NCAA investigator.

Posted by archalon on February 7, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Quietly, the best news about the program :

9 All Americans coming in, BUT "Nearly half of this class were scholar athletes, almost half of this class were team captains and almost half of them were on state championship teams. "

and

“We have posted the best team GPA in the last ten years of Colorado Football. We have graduated almost 100 percent of our seniors, and I feel really good about that. We have done a nice job on our APR. Nearly every guy in our program has done over four hours of community service. "

Posted by earmuffs on February 7, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well, what is the point of having NCAA regulations regarding recruiting when coaches can simply ignore or blur them without fear of reprecussion?

extrapoint - I couldn't afford the cut in pay.

Posted by JBuff on February 7, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to hear more about Bobby Kennedy from Texas and if he was calling in the dead period.

Posted by walto_clown on February 7, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's what the Texas fans are rallying behind this morning (imagnine the giddiness at the hint of inpropriety).

www.dallasnews.com/sharedconte...s.95b18592.html

And here's my response (Scout) to what I amounts to nothing more than reporting rumors:

Umm, okay. There's nothing damning in this article.

Follow the incentive and you usually get the real story:

--A high school coach who's advice was spurned by a player. But there's possibly more than sour grapes in those remarks. Allegedly, Texas had offered Sonsini a job if he could deliver Scott. I don't want to finger-point, because I have no personal insight to those allegations.

--Somebody claiming to be an in-law to the girlfriend of a relative of Scott's said that there was a bank job offered. Ummm what?! Regardless of who the poster claimed to be, it was nonetheless ANONYMOUS. So an unknown poster with a likely incentive to be vindictive and stir the pot possibly did so in a manner without any reprecussions...that's right, a chat board. Whoa! Stop the presses. An anonymous person claims that Darrell Scott's mom was offered the job. No wonder Scott turned down Texas...there can be no other logical possiblity other than cheating.

-CU doesn't have the crazy following that Texas has. Historically, CU's program hasn't had to fend off "generous" boosters the way programs like Oklahoma, USC and Texas have. I don't blame the programs themselves in most of those cases, just the boosters. Again, it's typically a different kind of following in Colorado. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I'd be surprised if it did.

-You've obviously read the NY Times article where Scott's Mom claims that she's not even planning on moving to Boulder.

-One ANONYMOUS poster on CU's site claims to be related to the owners of the bank in question. Apparently CSU fans, but hey, I don't give that post any more credence than the original allegation.

You're not raining on my parade, Sunshine. There's not a single allegation that hints of anything beyond sour grapes. If the CU staff acted innappropriately they deserve to be punished, and certainly the Dallas Rag is encouraged to investigate the story. I'll indeed be surprised if something pops up. But again, the facts remain unknown to me. Please come back if something substantial is uncovered...but then again, I'm sure you will. Sometimes, as a fan, it helps to have your view of the world validated...

I enjoyed this link, by the way. It gives a good insight into what our program's about and where it's going:

https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArt...;ATC...

Posted by mike.jo on February 7, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I’m just so glad Hawkin’s and CU are leading the way in “recruiting the right way” and, per Plati, “Dan Hawkins runs the cleanest program in the conference, bar none.”

I’m sure coaches around the Big 12, and nationally, are hoping they can someday be like CU.

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If anything the NCAA is overly anal about enforcing it's regulations. If recruiting coaches get caught up in a "he said, she said" fingerpointing without hard evidence scenarios there wouldnt be a lot of time for recruiting leftover. In addition, if recruits see a lot of squablling between the recruiters over difficult to prove allegations, said recruit is most likely going to sign with the next team that sends a guy in who minds his own business. I highly doubt if any honest recruiter saw something blatant go down it would not get reported anyway.
I'm sure everyone here is suitably impressed that earmuffs is making a lot of money. He is probably one of those guys that gets his blood pressure off the scale when he hears about a welfare cheater.

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let 'em cheat. Only cheaters, guys who want shortcuts to success, want to play for cheaters.

That's what makes signing guys like Polk, Scott, Major, Givens and Miller last year all the more special. They could have signed anywhere, bought all the BS. But instead of instant gratification they chose to be part of something bigger and better.

I also think it says something - a whole lot actually - that USC's Mark Sanchez would help nudge DS towards CU. Respect.

Almost to a player, these guys said it yesterday when asked why Colorado: Hawk has a plan and they want to be the ones to build it.

Posted by walto_clown on February 7, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, that Dallas article has me a little more fired up than I thought. I later added this bit:

Furthermore:

The story takes a quote from Sonsini and THEN--completely out of context--makes reference to an unsubstantiated rumor. The intent, clearly, is to link a quote to a rumor even though NOTHING LINKS THE QUOTE TO THE RUMOR!

That is, in my opinion, irresponsible journalism. If he'd simply linked the quote to the rumor with some hint of fact, the author would have at least gained some credibility. Instead, he's perpetuating rumors. I thought the Morning News was supposed to be the reputable publication in that region. Last year, for instance, the Star Telegraph sent out BIBLES with its Sunday papers. Way to stay above the fray, Mr. Editor. When pressed on the issue, the Chief Editor responded, "well, you don't complain to the Post Office when you receive junk mail, do you? I view this as no different." Except, of course, the part where the Post Office doesn't have an Editer in Chief...but I digress...

Other things to consider:

--Darrell Scott, according to the LA Times, had severed communication with Sonsini PRIOR to Coach Hagan's in-house visit on Friday. Sonsini had complained about his lack of contact with Darrell. So how did he know if Darrell had received an offer he couldn't refuse?

--Okay, so maybe Darrell established contact again. Is it really likely DS would say, "Guess what coach, I know you've been pushing Texas down my throat, but some bank in Boulder offered my Mom a job for an incredible amount of money! Isn't it great!" It's a stretch in my mind, but then, my team wasn't just spurned by a great recruit, so I don't find myself in the position of grasping at straws.

That's all for now. I hope we get a definitive truth on this stuff, because if it's false, as I suspect it is, I don't want Longhorn fans holding onto it forever.

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bring it on!

Does anyone really think that after all this program has been through the past 5-6 years anyone remotely related to it would do something as blatantly stupid as break even the most minor rule when recruiting one of the most scrutinized, highly-sought players in one of the most public, circus-like forums imaginable?

I would welcome an NCAA investigation. It'll last all of about 30 seconds.

Posted by rswright on February 7, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can you believe this? From a Dallas News blog:

"My step sister is Josh Smith's girlfriend. Josh Smith is Darrell Scott's uncle & Darrell Scott's mother's brother. He's a freshman WR at CU. Per her, Darrell's mom was offered a great job at a bank in Boulder by a huge CU fan as an enticement to get Darrell to come to CU. My step-sister didn't know what kind of $$$ the job pays, but Josh told her it was a huge increase over her current job. She apparently still has to "interview", but the job was promised to her should Darrell come to CU. Josh had told her that Darrell apparently told his recuiter at Texas and their head coach that he was Texas bound as recently as Saturday afternoon. The job offer was fully extended on Sunday, after being discussed prior to the CU coaches visiting Darrell in CA last Thursday or Friday. Darrell's mom then cut off all communication w/ Texas and had Darrell call Texas Monday evening to tell them he'd changed his mind. I asked my step sister how any of this could be legal, but she said that Josh had said that it was all perfectly legal b/c none of the promises/offers came directly from the CU staff. They were apparently aware of the offers though. She also said that Josh had said that Darrell was pretty sold on Texas, but a lot of questions were brought up by the CU staff regarding some new guy they hired at Texas to coach running backs. Apparently, he's a real sleezy guy, and CU explained that's why he'd been at 4 schools in 4 years as a coach. Take it for what it's worth, but that's what my step-sister Ashley told me yesterday."

Read the NY Times article to see the truth and learn something about Texas.

Posted by Ralphie2 on February 7, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, the Dallas Morning News now ranks just behind FOX NEWS as the most unreliable, unprofessional and unscrupulous news outlet in the history of planet earth.

I can't believe they post that tabloid trash!

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"There are some programs out there that are cheating," Cabral said. "I've experienced it first-hand."

Wow! Some things never change. Your investigation is coming.

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

god forbid we should smite the mighty TX. The bigger they are, the harder they fall, and with a lot more noise.
I cant wait for those arrogant b**tards to get to Boulder.

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We'll be there soon enough.

10/15/2005 vs. *Colorado (7-6) W 42 17
12/3/2005 vs. *Colorado (7-6) W 70 3
10/30/2004 @ *Colorado (8-5) W 31 7
10/20/2001 vs. *Colorado (10-3) W 41 7

Posted by rswright on February 7, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BigTex:
If you say you experienced first hand some programs cheating, don't hide it, tell us, especially if it concerns CU. Or maybe the truth is, like most Texans, you pretend that you have something to say but really don't.

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yo, BigTex,

Guess what chief... We ain't scared.

Now grow up so you don't have to inflate your ego through choice of online name.

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rs, that was a quote from Cabral, one of your asst coaches.

rodrigo, BigTex is a figure from the Texas State Fair. And I am a man, I'm 40. Okay, I'm over 40 but who's counting?

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok, guess I'll just start callin' ya lil' Tex then, since I'm assuming you're not a freak sideshow attraction at the state fair.

Also, I already assumed you were, age-wise at least, a man. It's the way you act, that's in question. Seems like you're awful quick to allude to your manhood. Some oedipal issues there?

But what the hell, Tex. Why bicker. CU got Scott. The NCAA is free to come sniffin' around. And when they're done I'll happily accept your apology and admission that you were wrong about any improprieties.

Until then, I'll consider you a spoiled little boy who after being spurned by his dream date can only respond by calling her a 'ho.

Posted by walto_clown on February 7, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought we played Texas twice in 2001. It seems like the second game counted for a lot more...

Posted by cumba06 on February 7, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are two parts of the blog that I find hilarious. First, they say Josh Smith is his Uncle AND his mothers brother… Second, where is this big bank in Boulder? I live in Boulder and there aren’t any large private banks here. All we have are branches of large national banks, and the positions don’t offer windfall salaries. They don’t even do large commercial lending out of the banks in Boulder. The blogger needs to do a little more homework next time and come up with a better fake company to go work for.

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

all hat.....and no sportsmanship
I thought this sour grapes, poor loser thing was beneath big men like the ones from Texas

Posted by MinnesotaBuff on February 7, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All the mud slinging and crap talking on this and other college football boards is depressing. All one has to do is listen to coach Hawk and J-Fly talk about the recruiting class on cubuffs.com.

Coach Hawk brings such positivity to college football where most people resort to such pettiness. 17 and 18 year olds choose to go to different schools for different reasons and to suggest underhandedness in the process without proof is asinine.

D Scott came to CU because his uncle plays on the team and he came come in and be the starter right away. I hope every school in the Big 12 does everything the right way and let the best man win at the end of the day.

And till the day I die I hope those men are wearing black and gold.

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No sour grapes at all. We were fine before Scott and we will be fine after. It is just interesting that they didn't explore any of the dirty stuff before proclaiming a sanitary program that, if I'm not mistaken, is on probation for being dirty.

Yes at this point it is all rumors. OU's Big Red motor sports scandal started out as rumors and an anonymous email. But more often than not, where there is smoke, you usually find fire.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly come back and apologize.

Posted by mike.jo on February 7, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MinnesotaBuff: Per Plati, CU is the only team in the conference that is clean. Everyone else cheats, or are 'less clean' than CU.

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fair enough, Tex.

Actually, CU is not on probation. It has already paid the price for the indiscretions of past staffs (Barnett and Neuheisel) in the form of severe constraints on recruiting and increased institutional oversight.

It's also important to note that those indiscritions ultimately contributed to Hawkins' hiring. The CU admin, under the glare of the lights shining on those dirty deeds, sought and ultimately got a coach that it and the State Board of Regents (which oversees such things) were confident understood the ramifications. Any more shenanigans and the axe would fall swift.

Now that's no guarantee. But it would be really, really offbase to lay the blame for what happened in the past at the feet of Hawkins.

Read the NYTimes piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/spo... . Whatever you think of the NYT, you can hardly accuse them of being in on the scam.

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Read it and it tells a compelling story, but not the complete story. That is one of the reasons only the NYT and two other media sources were the only ones allowed into the ESPN Zone for the announcement at Alexis Scott's request. I am confident she had the right to censor the article.

I find it odd that they would put Kennedy on the speaker phone for the NYT reporter to hear. who would do a thing like that.

I also find it odd that the CU coaches would attack the character of Major Applewhite. One of the most squeaky clean guys I may have ever seen.

Or the fact that only one of Scott's coaches was informed of and invited to the announcement.

Darrell Scott when informed about Major's hiring...
"I don't know who that is, but it doesn't matter, Texas is still in the same place they were before. They hold a slight lead over Colorado."

So how did "I don't care" turn into doubt after CU visited?

At one time Alexis Scott said Ruckers new job may be better because he would be more accessible for Darrell.

Too much happened too fast for this to just be about his uncle.

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe Big Tex has a point. If someone could actually resist the charm of Mack Brown and the glory of Texas, there has to be something dirty going on.
Sarcasm from this side, obviously, but from the Texas side, I have to think the arrogance is real.
Big Tex is defintely right about one thing. It doesnt make any difference if they got Scott or not....basically because his talent would have been wasted at Texas.
Now that Bill Callihan and Lloyd Carr are history, Mack Brown is left as the greatest talent waster of all.
Inspite of all his great recruiting classes, Mack has made it to the top of the hill only once....and that was due to a once in a lifetime superman named Vince Young who did it thru improvisation as opposed to any Mack Brown game plan.

Posted by bzainthemd on February 7, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Big Tex,
You sound like a jealous little teenage girl who didn't get the high school QB to go to the prom even though she thinks she's hotter. Where is your proof that there was more to the NYT story than there is or that Scott's mom can censor it? Since when has a publication like the NYT had to bow down to a high school kid's mom to get a story? Why did Scott put Kennedy on speakerphone? Because the guy wouldn't shut up. Also, what the hell was Kennedy doing calling Scott during the dead period? Last I checked, that was a NCAA violation. And you are saying CU is playing dirty? Wanna know why he chose CU? Read the article again. It sounds to me that Applewhite rubbed him the wrong way in the first visit and since he has no experience coaching RB's, he chose to come to CU. A place where he established a great relationship with Hagan and where his uncle who is more like his brother plays.

Let's face it. Sosseni was certainly directing him towards Texas. Sosseni wouldn't do interviews with people from Colorado, but was talking up a storm doing interviews with Texas publications and recruiting sites. It wasn't until a guy from rivals called him out that he started talking to Colorado people. You talk about fishy? Once Darrell got Sosseni out of the picture and had time to think about, he made up his mind. And you wonder why his coaches weren't invited to his announcement?

Now, big deal. You know what...had he chosen to go to Texas, I would have wished him well and never would have called out Texas for doing anything wrong. You are making way too many assumptions about this, and we all know what that makes you.

Posted by BigTex on February 7, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Get your facts straight, it is not a violation to call, it is a violation to vist. Both Texas and CU called during the dead period.

The rest of the story will eventually come out.

Jealous? Of CU? I think not. That's laughable. Whether we won it with or without Vince, we won it. Look back at how many players from our championship team are not only in the NFL, but starting and tell me it was only Vince. Now you sound like the ignorant okies.

David Thomas had ten catches that day, several were third down conversions. The defense put together a great effort to get the ball back in the hands of the offense to allow them to score the go ahead TD.

Michael Griffin mad a great TD saving int.

My guess is that you must not have watched it, otherwise you would be more informed.

Now you have your superman and what will you do with it? Nothing. Same thing you have always done.

We can go back and forth allday, but I haven't the time. You will see as time goes on that there is more to the story than the NYT or any Colorado fishwrap is reporting.

Like I said, if I'm wrong I promise to come back and apologize.

Posted by bzainthemd on February 7, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Big Tex,
I'm not a NCAA rules expert by any means, but from what I have read, it is a violotion for a cocah from a team to initiate a call during the dead period. If the player initiates it, it is not a violation. Per the Times article, Kennedy called Scott. Scott called Hagan and Hawkins. If I'm wrong on this rule, I'll apologize, but that's what I have read from so-called "experts". Again, I could be wrong.

Second, the fact that you are making excuses for not landing Scott and without any merit whatsoever are calling CU cheats and saying that there's more to the story based on what idiot fans of UT are saying on chat boards such as these, and not on anything solid, makes you seem awfully jealous. Why else are you on our board and claiming these unfounded stories are true?

And BigTex, I loved your final scores of the last 4 games UT won over CU. You forgot two things. One...in between that first 2001 score and the 2004 score, there was that little Big XII title game that CU won and knocked UT out of the National Title picture. And, if you want to talk about scores, if you go back to 1990, Colorado is 6-5 against Texas. Yeah, that's right, we were 5-1 against Texas in the 90's. Why do I bring this up. Because obviously, as we had a down turn the past 5 years, Texas did too in the 90's. Things go in cycles buddy. And CU is again rising to the top. Get used to it, we did with UT.

Posted by mcbuffs1 on February 7, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You sure seem to have a lot of time to keep rambling BigTex. As for "what we will do with it", why don't you go into hiding and we can rehash that question the night of October 4th. For the love of God, please go away until then.

Posted by archalon on February 7, 2008 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UT fans - you come across as dumb AND ungrateful.

And the petty insults towards Scott now - please. You loved this kid and suddenly he is overrated, fat, slow, corrupt, dumb,a cheater,family controlled, blah,blah,blah.......get a life sore losers

Here's a list of possible reasons not to go to Texas:( I peaked at Scott's pros vs. cons note card)

1. 5 other RBs recruited in this class
2. ungrateful, arrogant fans
3. state smells of manure
4. UT in-state love fest with Texas kids
5. Coaches you barely know or trust
6. Weather isn't as good as you make it sound
7. no roaches,lizards are freaky looking armadillos in Colorado
8. Media obsession of UT stalking him is annoying

And also - PLEASE send the NCAA to Boulder. CU is a CLEAN PROGRAM - after what we went through with Barney, we hold a higher standard here.

Posted by walto_clown on February 7, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Big Tex,

What's your source to suggest that the CU Staff attacked the character of Applewhite? Last I heard is that the CU staff is a big Applewhite fan. Our quarterback, Cody Hawkins, has an Applewhite autograph, that he apparently values considerably.

Even I'm a big Applewhite fan. I'm no Texan, but he's a smart dude and a proven winner. Coulda done without the taunting in the Big XII Championship, but hey, he was fired up...

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nobody questioned the quality of Texas players, Mr. dyslexia. Okies must have better reading slash comprehension scores. You really do have some insecurities to deal with, dont you?
The questioning was Mack Brown's ability to coach, outside of recruiting. The fact that Brown had such great players and only won once amplifies his lack of coachimng ability and subsequently the very real possibility of wasting of Scott's talent.....(and I watched the game, No doubt vince young was absolutely the difference maker....and robbed of the heisman. Bush was running out of bounds all night just like his texas village idiot namesake in the whitehouse)

)

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW
not only can you not win an NC without Young, you cant even beat OU....
You almost lost to NU and the worst D of all time, before someone on the staff woke up and said...hey guys we do have a running back!
I'll bet Charles wont ever look back!

Posted by trubuff on February 7, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Definition of a LOSER- someone who goes to other teams' message boards and tries to talk smack.

Posted by SanDiegoBuff on February 7, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Big Tex.. I know you're too ignorant to see the "facts" but here they are (I borrowed this from a friend at AllBuffs):

TEXAS might seem like a great program, Darrell, but the reality is they received an enormous bump in reputation and success because of one person: Vince Young. Young was a phenomenon, no doubt. But that phenomenon is over now, and without him, Texas is no better a program that Colorado. Please join me now to take a closer look at some history. In the 15 years prior to Vince's arrival in Austin, COLORADO was 7-2 against the Longhorns:

1989 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 27-6 Click
1990 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 29-22 Click
1993 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 36-14 Click
1994 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 34-31 Click
1996 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 28-24 Click
1997 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 47-30 Click
2000 - Colorado LOSES TO Texas 14-28 Click
2001 - Colorado LOSES TO Texas 7-41 Click
2001 - Colorado DEFEATS Texas 39-37 - Big XII Ch'ship Game

It is true that Vince Young beat Colorado in 2004, and then twice (badly) in 2005, but Vince Young is gone now! Let's take an even longer historical comparison of the two teams. Even with Colorado's 3 losses to Vince Young:

COLORADO leads the series since 1982, 7-5

PAST 25 YEARS (1982-2007):

COLORADO - 18 Bowl Games
TEXAS - 19 Bowl Games

COLORADO - 7 Top Ten finishes: 89, 90, 92, 94-96, ‘01
TEXAS - 7 Top 10 finishes: ‘83, (big gap) 01', ‘02, ‘03, ‘05, '07 Click

COLORADO (1985-2005): 167-78-2
TEXAS (1985-2005): 157-81 (lots of Rice, Houston, Baylor, SMU, North Texas)

COLORADO - 3 Chances @ NC on New Years Day: ‘89 (11-0 #1, lost to ND); 90 National Champions; and ‘01 (if CU def. Ore in Fiesta and NU def MIA in Rose, then CU AP NC)
TEXAS - 2 Chances @ NC on New Years Day: ‘83 (11-0 #1, lost to Georgia), 2005 Won NC; More - they had a real shot at NC in 2001, but CU smacked down the #3 'Horns in Big XII Championship Game).

DON'T LET THEM FOOL YOU WITH ANCIENT HISTORY! These two programs are in fact VERY EVEN over the last 25 years, even when we INCLUDE the 3-year single-handed statistical abberation that was Vince Young. Don't believe the hype - without him, they are a VERY ordinary program ... even with Ricky Williams and Cedric Benson, they were nothing special. No better or worse than Colorado.

Now, if you see the FACTS, you'll see that CU is every bit the equal of, and in most categories better than your Shorthorns.

Posted by T1 on February 7, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tex, why do you care so much? Did you cry when Scott announced? No? Then get over it and get over yourself. You are like the fusker fans who build their entire identity around an AMATEUR sports team. Yeah we Buff fans are happy. We've had a pretty rough decade (aside from winning the conference title in 2001 against your beloved cows), so why don't you cut us some freaking slack. No, Colorado will probably never be a football factory like texas but we've had some decent moments too. So how about we just wait and see what happens this year before you run your mouth (or fingers) any more.

Posted by rodrigo on February 7, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice... the Internet equivalent of a gang tackle.

Just more fuel for the fire come next October. We can call it the Darrell Scott Slander Bowl....

Posted by reallifeshocker on February 7, 2008 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey, i believe this is much ado about nothing. scott will be at colorado, and so will alot of other talented players and great coaches. let the end point be decided on the field. by the way....i really like fox news.

Posted by MDBuff on February 7, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Any chance the Buffs will get the prized recruit who held a press conference to select Cal over Oregon, then admitted he made the whole thing up?

Posted by StopTheInsanity on February 7, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Congrats to CU on what appears to be a solid recruiting class.

Looking at the bigger "Big 12" picture, ESPN has 5 schools in their top 25: Oklahoma, Texas, NU, CU, and A&M.

Let's face it, higher tides floats all boats.

Posted by extrapoint on February 7, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Intrigued over A&M. Will Sherman be a better exNFL coach than Callihan? Will A&M finally emerge from mediocrity? This is one of those schools that supposedly has a great football tradition but you wonder where it came from. I run into Aggie engineers all the time in my business and they are rabid fans. Hopefully what I said here will needle them a little.

Posted by EnviroBuff79 on February 7, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've been reading these posts for awhile now, and I am so glad that signing day is over. So far so good, but potential is just that (I had high hopes for the QB and RB from the neighborhood, and then they left or were run off...); let's see how these new young'uns adapt. From what I have seen, there are some that have not have had to put in the work, either physically, academically, or emotionally.

I am stoked for the coming season, but I hope that what people write about is not the wins or losses, but about how hard and how long the players compete (see this years b-ball teams.) It is not all about the w/l column to stroke one's self esteem; I've been to the blogs of the other sites and I am saddened by the need to put down other posters as opposed to being a fan (booster/supporter/cheerleader/helper) of your own team.

On that point, I went to high school in Killeen, TX, about 60 miles northeast of Texas, got my BA in Boulder, and my MS at OU. The weather report: the summers are much worse in Texas than the winters are in Boulder (but please don't advertise because there are too many Texans in Colorado and they won't go home, but they will bash CU and the fans).

Bshoemaker; we need to get together to start a Buff Club here in Oklahoma; to cheer the Buffs to victory against OU, UT, and NU (but that goes without saying), and OU making UT cry every year.

Posted by extrapoint on February 8, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I dont know what "awhile" means but if you have been reading these posts for the last 2 years you know that the vast majority of us here have supported the team through 2 losing seasons. We are all eternal optimists as true Buffs should be. So dont worry about the wins and losses thing.

As far as putting down other posters, I assume you mean the same old trolls or fans from other schools who come here with a chip on their shoulder. They take home exactly what they bring here. Case in point were the fans from Georgia who came here prior to the game. They were gracious and good sports and were welcomed with open arms.

Posted by walto_clown on February 10, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aviator?

Are you responding to the polite email regarding medical school rankings that BZAIN The MD posted in NOVEMBER? Your response isn't appropriate, but I'm increasingly convinced that you don't have complete control over your posts.

From my perspective your contributions have gone from parochial, but amusing to sad, to very, very uncomfortable. I hope you get the help you need, but I can't believe these outbursts are therapeutic for you, and they're sad to witness. You can do what you want, but maybe everyone's happier if you take a break from Buffzone for a while.

Best of luck to you. I hope everything works out. Good luck to the Huskers as well. I root for the Big XII North.

Posted by rodrigo on February 11, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoa. It took Av that long to look that stuff up? I guess when he writes in all caps we're suppossed to really take him seriously.

Posted by rswright on February 13, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoa! These CU fans actually have a brain. They have some thoughts.
But its only when they want to. When you touch the sore spots they scream like longhorns losing a recruit.
How about some thoughts here on how to make the AD's job a little easier like how to get more fans in the stadium rather than always applying pressure him to spend money he doesn't have.

Posted by rodrigo on February 13, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have an idea: cut tennis.

Posted by rswright on February 16, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shows how much Rodrigo knows about NCAA sports. Cut tennis, or golf or track and you will eliminate CU football. No more bowl games Rodrigo.
If you don't think so maybe you can tell us where this is wrong, Rodrigo?

Posted by rodrigo on February 20, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gee, rs, you're right.

What I meant was they should cut tennis and replace it with wrestling - both men's and women's.

Happy?