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The Colorado football team lost another member to academic problems Monday as 105 players reported to campus to prepare for the first practices of training camp today.
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For the second consecutive year a senior's career came to end before the season when guard Erick Faatagi was ruled academically ineligible. Former starting quarterback Bernard Jackson saw his career end the same way last August.
Faatagi came to CU as a junior-college transfer prior to the 2006 season. He underwent knee surgery before that season and redshirted. He was ruled academically ineligible last fall as well and missed a second straight year.
Faatagi is the fourth member of the team to be ruled academically ineligible for this season, and there could be more coming. Wide receiver Kendrick Celestine and defensive back Lamont Smith both are trying to keep themselves eligible by earning good grades in the second summer term which ends this week.
Offensive lineman Sione Tau, linebacker Nate Vaiomounga and wide receiver Markques Simas were previously ruled ineligible and won't play this year. They are allowed to practice.
Faatagi's departure is a significant blow to an offensive line that could now feature freshmen at both guard positions when the season starts. A group of six guards will battle this month to win those jobs. Those players are true freshmen Max Tuioti-Mariner, redshirt freshmen Matt Bahr, Shawn Daniels, BlakeBehrens and Mike Iltis and junior Devin Head, who is the only player in the group with any college playing experience.
The offensive line also gained a member Monday, though he will not be eligible this season. Center Evan Eastburn has transferred to CU from Maryland where he spent two years after graduating from Fairview High School in 2006.
Eastburn was recruited to CU by former coach Gary Barnett, but he chose to attend Maryland despite being a life-long Buffs fan. NCAA transfer rules require Eastburn to sit out, but he will be eligible again next season in time to compete for the starting center job that will be vacated when senior Daniel Sanders plays his final game this year.
"I saw what coach Hawkins has done with the program and it really impressed me," Eastburn said. "It's obvious this is where I belong."
The Dal Ward Center was bustling with activity Monday as players received physicals and were fitted for equipment. The Buffs also participated in academic and compliance orientations before eating dinner together as a team and having position meetings with coaches.
Some veteran members of the team reported with new looks. Senior safety D.J. Dykes wore a buzz-cut after spending his first two years in the program with a shaggy mop of black hair. Cornerback Jimmy Smith and several others also showed up with freshly trimmed hair.
Veterans and newcomers alike were filled with a sense of anticipation after a long offseason in strength and conditioning coach Jeff Pitman's care.
"A lot of times people dread camp, but I think there is a lot of excitement here," Dykes said. "I think a lot of guys feel the same way."
A healthy percentage of that excitement comes from a strong recruiting class featuring players such as running backs Darrell Scott, Ray Polk and Rodney Stewart, linebackers Lynn Katoa, Jon Major, Doug Rippy and Shaun Mohler and tight ends Ryan Deehan, Ryan Wallace and Will Pericak.
Many of the newcomers will practice in the mornings this week with practices split into two sessions for rookies and veterans. Some upper-classman will workout in the mornings because of class conflicts. It's also possible some of the newcomers who are expected to play right away this season could practice immediately with the veterans in the afternoon.
Stewart, a 5-foot-6, speedy tailback and kick returner from Ohio, said he is just hoping to find any way to help the team and earn playing time. Stewart said he is used to people underestimating him because of his size.
"It just motivates me and makes me work harder," he said. "I know I'm shorter so I've got to be faster and things like that."
Posted by BuffMan6236 on August 5, 2008 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ugh. Is this normal to have so many fall out due to academics?
Posted by ilikeseeyou on August 5, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There's no way that I can say this without coming off as racist or whatever, and I am not that, but doesn't it seem like there has been a HUGE number (certainly percentage-wise) of Samoans and Hawaiians that have been getting in trouble and/or are not making the grade the last few years? It's getting ridiculous! What can be done about this?
(I know I am not the first person to think this, maybe the first to post something about it though...)
Posted by kimolukela on August 5, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Faatagi is from Los Angeles. Colorado probably has one of the highest percentages of Hawaiians for any Mainland football team (Great Job Cabral!). The fact is that the University and Police have gotten stricter when dealing with football players. These types of incidents have always happened, but either weren't reported or simply ignored. Our championship team wasn't a bunch of angels (my brother was good friends with a couple of them). Most college kids make mistakes. It is part of growing up.
Football players are student athletes. The key word being student. They, like all students, have to make the grade and abide by the rules. Due to their high profile, they should and are held to a higher behaviorial standard.
Posted by NJBuff on August 5, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a complete and utter waste of a scholarship. Two years in a row academically ineligible. You should be ashamed of yourself Fataagi.
You have to figure the guard position is Head's to lose.
Let's go Buffs!
Posted by RalphieRepresentah4 on August 5, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
it makes me sick to say this but i agree with tall,my thinking is someone should monitor these things and take care of it before it gets this far out of hand.4 scholarships wasted due to grades.makes no sense.if 1 of these guards dont step up Hawk is going to be eating crow for moving Maiava to fullback and then watching him leave.all that said i cant wait 4 the season 2 start GO BUFFS!!!
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This o-line will be just fine. Deeper and more talented than last year's bunch.
Posted by flabuff227 on August 5, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kenneth- Their you go blaming other people! wHATEVER HAPPENED TO ACCOUNTABILITY?
Posted by OutToPasture on August 5, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
McCartney had mandatory study table for all freshmen and anyone with less than a 2.5 GPA, plus academic advisers that checked classes and got regular progress reports from professors.
It's surprising and disturbing that these guys aren't taking care of business in the classroom. It's not that hard to maintain a 2.0. The worst part is that shows an overall lack of discipline - which translates to on-field issues like penalties and turnovers (which have killed us in recent years).
Posted by LGDAF on August 5, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It sounds logical, and is probably a good idea, to monitor the grades of student athletes to help prevent this. Is it in the best interest of the University to monitor grades?...yep!
But this isn't kindergarden. These guys are 18-21 years of age and must be responsible and accountable for their own actions. You go to college not only to get an education but to mature into a responsible adult and become a better person. These guys need to rely on themselves and hold themselves to a higher standard. The only person responsible for the academic success of a student (athlete or not) is the student...period!
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
105 players are in camp.
FOUR others are academically ineligible.
Help! The sky is falling!
Posted by smokey on August 5, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Faatagi was always just another questionable Barnett kid who everyone SAID was great, but who would ever know. Sure a handfull of Hawkins' freshman are having trouble, but the only reason those troubles are magnified is because we're relying on Hawkins' freshman to start ahead of Barnett's seniors.
Tall, Also GLARING is CU's beat down of Neb, the complete overthrow of callahan's staff, a now scattered and lost fan base (that forces the Neb fans to other teams' sites), and multiple recruits heading for greener pastures at CU. Feel free to enter another socially awkward comment here:
Posted by buffalo_flyer on August 5, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Maivaia has got to be kicking himself real hard right about now
Posted by LGDAF on August 5, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Knowing that your ability to play college football gets taken away if you don't make your grades should be motivation enough. I'm sure every student athlete is made aware of this from the get go.
Whether we are willing to believe it or not some people don't really get the message until they make the mistake. And sometimes the best way to learn is to make mistakes. This has been an issue for CU football because we have been lacking in depth.
Posted by archalon on August 5, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Fataagi is inexcusable - two years ineligible ? Sad that he doesnt take care of his personal business. Throw the football angle out and its still inexcusable.
Regarding all academic issues, I think its simple: no, staff shouldnt have to monitor grades, players need to be accountable. But, the fact of the matter is that if the University is providing a scholarship, its in their interests to ensure a return on the investment.
A few things Id like to see for 2009: mandatory freshman redshirts for academic question marks, mandatory study halls\revised academic support for all sports and a policy that includes yanking a scholarship if you are ineligible for a season ( you can earn it back, IF one is available the next year.)
If that makes kids transfer, so be it. We just wasted a year each on Tau and Simas, and two on Fataagi - give that four years to a hard working player who shows up for class.
In the meantime, MTM will be a stud and Iltis is a sleeper. Remember Head wasnt that good in 2006, so he'll still have to fight for a job.
Posted by Saheeb on August 5, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
After two-a-days, all the time in Pitman's grueling workouts, etc., you would think these guys would want to be on the field so badly after all their hard work they would maintain a 2.0. Hell, all you have to do to get a B in a class is show up and listen (of course, I didn't discover that until I was a junior...). Anyhow, I know it's hard at a young age to be mature enough to realize how easy it is to get at least a 2.0, but geez, all that work down the drain just over grades!?? But I agree witht the earlier post, 4 ineligible out of 105 is not "the sky is falling." It just sucks to lose some people we expected to contribute this season and we need experienced players.
Posted by archalon on August 5, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why all the love for Kai ? He's gone. We are just fine at the position, MTM would have displaced Kai anyway.
Have a little faith
Posted by LVBuff on August 5, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
At some point student-athletes have to be responsible for themselves. Even at the HS level the coaches are not responsible for ensuring that their players are taking care of business in the classroom it is simply a reasonable expectation that is explained to everyone going into the season. My son has had to learn this lesson the hard way, as it almost cost him a trip to the state track championships this year. As a parent I didn’t step in because I wanted him to learn now and not at the next level. Maybe if more of these youngsters learned this lesson in HS we wouldn’t be discussing it now.
Posted by SnowBuff on August 5, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
already said. 105 players in camp. 4 guys are academically ineligible.
Wow, think about that. less then 5% of our guys are unable to keep above a 2.0. Compare that to the total student body and I think we will be happy that Hawk is doing as well as he is to keep these guys on their schooling.
Anyways, what is up with our newest Buff? Why did he transfer (really?). What was he rated coming out of HS?
Posted by nwbuff32 on August 5, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go to class.
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Regarding Eastburn: http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/...
Posted by buffalotom on August 5, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
an observation and a question.
i suspected that faatagi would start since no guard - or set of guards - had emerged in spring ball, and because of his reputation, size, etc. this is a blow - the oline will have 2 solid starters, a converted tightend (who looked good in spring ball), and great uncertainty at guard. i suspect the oline will be problematic in the early games. there may also be a shuffle, depending upon whether stevens is better at center than the freshmen competing for the other guard spot, i.e, sanders may shift back to guard.
the question, maybe for ringo: what are the academic supervision practices? granted 4 or 6/105 is not necessarily serious but it can't be ignored, either. i don't know the ratios for other d1 schools, but this eligibility problem may be indicative of cu's academic quality, at least relative to other schools.
Posted by Saheeb on August 5, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Snowbuff: I wondered the same. Evan Eastburn, center, was a 2-star. From what I can tell he only had offers from Maryland and San Diego State.
SMOKEY: Fataagi was a Hawkins recruit in the 2006 class, not a Barnett one.
Posted by Ralow on August 5, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ilikeseeyou: "There's no way that I can say this without coming off as racist or whatever, and I am not that, but doesn't it seem like there has been a HUGE number (certainly percentage-wise) of Samoans and Hawaiians that have been getting in trouble and/or are not making the grade the last few years? It's getting ridiculous! What can be done about this?
(I know I am not the first person to think this, maybe the first to post something about it though...)"
OK, so Chris Perri, Jake Duren, Riar Geer, Bernard Jackson, Simas, etc. don't count huh?? Its only the Hawaiians and the Samoans who are having trouble. Gimme a break man! When you focus on one particular group of people and ignore all others that IS racist...sorry but you shouldn't even be thinking like that with all the other kids getting into trouble. Don't just focus on the Polynesian kids. But if you must, don't forget all the other Hawaiian and Polynesian kids like BJ Beatty, Marquez Herrod, etc. who ARE doing well. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though...
Posted by flabuff227 on August 5, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey tal Whatever happened to The fuskers tight end That just received his third dui? I think he is still Playing. Now thats accountability!
Posted by bufflover on August 5, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
yeah a husker would never do such a thing. when the required gpa to get into nebraska is what? a 1.5??? how many players at nebraska can actually spell cornhuskers???? and by the way, you dont husk corn, you shuck it.
Posted by flabuff227 on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think he was supposed to be a starter.
Posted by tallisall on August 5, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Even with the lose of Faatagi, the buffs should have a great starting O-line lead by Miller and Sanders who are in my opinion two of the top linemen in the country.
Posted by LGDAF on August 5, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
bufflover...just googled "corn husker" and thought you'd all enjoy this one. A "Corn Husker" is not the act of removing the husk or outer coating of corn. Instead, a "corn husker" in a TOOL used to remove the husk. This confirms it. The corn huskers are tools!!
http://www.nps.gov/archive/pisp/kids/...
Posted by tallisall on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If Givens can put the weight he lost back on I wouldnt be suprised to see him out there making a real impact on the o-line
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually, kenny, according to www.huskers.com:
"Senior tight end Hunter Teafatiller will be counted on to expand his role in the Nebraska offense this fall. Last season Teafatiller was part of a large group of tight ends who contributed, but three of those players have completed their eligibility leaving the 6-3, 240-pound Teafatiller as the most veteran member of that group.
Teafatiller has played in 32 games over the past three seasons, and has shown big-play ability with four of his nine career receptions resulting in touchdowns. Teafatiller has been a regular on Nebraska’s kickoff return unit throughout his career."
Just thought you'd like to know.
Posted by nwbuff32 on August 5, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No Buff fan will ever cheer for Ryan Hill. He is a pompous arrogant prik. For no reason he bad mouthed the Buffs and Hawk before the 07 season started. Looks like he had to eat his words.
Posted by extrapoint on August 5, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tall
give us a rundown on the corncrib's wide receivers. Are they still named Marlon Lucky, Marlon Lucky, and Marlon Lucky or is there a fresh face somehwere that might actually catch a pass?
Posted by homeontherange on August 5, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
David Clark will contribute at Guard as well this year.
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah, Teafatiller's been charged with his third dui.
Depth charts don't change over the summer unless someone runs amiss within the program. That is unless BoP or the other Husker coaches were running practices in violation of NCAA rules.
Man, for someone who talks so much you sure do display an amazing ignorance at times.
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let me repeat, s-l-o-w-l-y this time: Coming out of spring ball he was someone the Huskers were counting on. Their words, not mine.
His absence - given that he's no longer on the depth chart - is clear, but not because he's been displaced by necessarily better players. It's that ornery drinking problem.
Only someone wearing rose-colored glasses would twist that news to be a positive.
Posted by BuffTime on August 5, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Regarding your USC article Tali, NCAA has no leverage over who gets/keeps the Heisman. It is a private club that decides that.
Besides, we all know nothing is going to happen and in case you hadn't noticed: THIS IS BUFFS Football! Not USC, not UCLA, not Corn Country.
Posted by smokey on August 5, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Nice call BuffTime. I think Tall is just lashing out at yet another school who gave NU a whipping recently.
Saheeb: Faatagi was a Barny prospect who (you guessed it) failed to make the grades out of HS. After regaining D1 eligibility at JC Hawk honored his original committment to CU during that partial 2006 cycle. So, yes, technically he was one of Hawk's kids.
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
But I thought all those championship teams at Nebraska were built on the backs of walk-ons, just like Teafatiller?
Or is that just more Husker hokem intended to buck up the wavering faithful?
Geez, kenny, seems like between the USC thing and Teafatiller thing you're having a bad reality day.
Posted by Saheeb on August 5, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Smokey: Thanks for the insight and correction. Wow, so that means he really wanted to play for CU if he went to a JC to qualify but still stayed focused on being a Buff. Then after all of that he flunks out just when it looks like he might get a lot of playing time. What a waste of several years for this kid. Too bad.
Posted by smokey on August 5, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey look who it is.... A Nebraska fan on a Colorado site. Here's what your posts look like to us: "blah blah blah, my program is in the toilet, blah blah blah, you guys don't have girlfriends or wives either right, blah blah blah"
Posted by smokey on August 5, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
While we're talking stats, Tom Osborn played more convicted criminals than any coach in history.
Posted by OutToPasture on August 5, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barnett graduated a lot of players because he couldn't recruit anyone with enough talent to leave school early for the NFL.
Posted by BuffTime on August 5, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Quick, someone break out the graduation stats for the entire history of CU football!
Tall, you're telling me that Barnett in 7 yrs graduated more players than McCartney did in 13 yrs? You must be smoking something awful to believe that! I have no doubt he graduated more than Neuheisel (4yrs) and the Hawk (who is only in his 3rd yr), but I would not wager that he has a higher graduation rate than Hawk does as a Div. 1 coach. You can even throw in Barnetts time at NW.
Posted by kimolukela on August 5, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tall, shouldn't you be touring with the New Kids On The Block? Despite your easy schedule, the Fuskers are going to take a beating this year. Deal with it and move on. Maybe even try dating someone other than the usual four legged friends?
CU
6 Nobel Prize winners
Nebraska
3 Nobel Prize winners
Posted by BuffTime on August 5, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Um, % graduated is a nice number (still pretty sure Hawk beats him there though) but you said "Barnett graduated more players than any football coach in CU history." That is number not percent. You implied that Barnett has graduated more Football players than any other coach. I called BS on that. To imply you are right then Mac would have had to graduate half as many per year for Barnett to eat him. No way.
Mac wins in numbers. Pretty sure Hawk wins in overall Div. 1 %.
Posted by rodrigo on August 5, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Numbers vs. percent. Alcohol problems vs. talent. Don't confuse kenny.
He's tried just about everything today only to have holes punched through each argument so now he's just pulling crap out of his...
Posted by oz_in_cali on August 5, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All I have to say to our boy talli and all husker faithful is:
You have Shawn Watson running your offense. Ha! Ha! (meant to sound like Nelson from the Simpsons)
Nuff Said.
If players can't hang in the classroom, sorry charlie, but this is CU not (fill in the blank yourself).
Yo smokey, haven't seen you on the board before. I like your style. Keep givin' smallisal a rash.
GO BUFFS!!!
Posted by BuffSteve on August 5, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I haven't read all of the posts on this article so someone may have brought this up already. How does losing Faatagi hurt our experience at O-line? I don't think he ever even played a down at CU so how does having him increase the "experience factor"?
In fact, what did he ever do at CU? He took scholarship money away from someone else. He never played and he certainly didn't attend class or pay attention in class. I would have given alot to have received a full scholarship when I went to CU and he just pissed it away.
Posted by buffalotom on August 5, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Buffsteve:
i mentioned this earlier.
summary: faatagi's reputation was as a relatively large, physical, competent guard at the jc level, projected to be the same type of player at the d1 level. he was thought to be the starter in '07, too, on the basis of his potential. he was in hawk's first class but was originally recurited by barnett. he may be missed because the guard situation was unclear at the spring game - faatagi didn't play that day due to academics. his absence may trigger dominoes on the oline if the rfrs or trfs don't come along, for example it may be the case that MTM may need another year to recover fully from knee surgery.
Posted by shopperey on August 5, 2008 at 6:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tall, are you crazy? What brings you to this board????
Are you pelini's retarded little brother?
which already makes you double retarded, because pelini himself is retarded!!!!
man, life as a nebraska fan must be tough!!!
Go Hawkins (x2)!!!! Go Buffs!!!!!!!
Posted by Buffs44 on August 5, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The University of Colorado football team held their first practices of the fall on Tuesday, finally giving some tangible evidence to Buff fans everywhere that football season is right around the corner.
The Buffs held two practices, one in the morning that was primarily made up of incoming players and one in the afternoon that consisted primarily of veterans. The groups had a noticeable mix of veterans in the morning practice and newcomers in the afternoon because some of the student athletes had class conflicts with their original designated practices.
The morning session provided the first real look for many at freshman tailback Darrell Scott. Afterword, Scott talked about his first practice.
“It was fast, when I would get the ball I would look for the hole and go” Scott said. “But Coach Hagan wanted me to go more vertical. I’ve never had a running back coach before, so it’s nice to have someone to coach you up. He just wants me to be my best.”
When asked about whether or not he could feel the affects of the altitude, Scott didn’t think it was a huge factor.
“I didn’t really feel it too much,” Scott explained. “I’ve been working out up here for a little over two weeks—I got a little winded but I felt good. If I could have gotten here earlier in the summer, I would have been all good with the altitude.”
Scott admitted that the first day of camp was exhausting, even if the team didn’t start practices until the second day.
“Yesterday was chaos” Scott said. “We moved into our dorms and went to a bunch of different meetings and basically made the big transition into college life.”
After the afternoon practice, Head Coach Dan Hawkins said he was happy with the progress the team has made heading into his third year at Colorado.
“Well I think that we are a lot further along than we have been in the past but we still have a long ways to go.” Hawkins said. “It’s hard when you’re out here without pads but it was a good start.”
When asked what his favorite part of camp has been so far, Hawkins talked not about any particular player or play, but rather of this signifying the start to a new season.
"Just getting out here, getting the ball rolling and getting going—seeing where guys are, seeing their enthusiasm and the smiles on their faces.” Hawkins said.
One of the more talked moments during the first day of camp had to have been when Scott lined up as a punter during the special teams period in the morning session. Scott explained the reasoning behind the decision was more than just to entertain the crowd.
“The coaches are going to put that in, because they’ve never had a punter/runner back there before,” Scott explained. “I thought I did alright; I was averaging a little over 40 yards I think. I played soccer as a kid, so that is where my kicking ability comes from.
Posted by mgmtgrad on August 5, 2008 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I’m a big Buff football fan and want to see a successful program, very, very much. But the bottom line is CU is a top university first. Two years of being ineligible (especially from a Juco transfer) should mean loss of your scholarship and kicked out of school period! Right now before the fall semester has started. Give the scholarship to a deserving walk on with good grades.
All of this other banter is pointless.
Marcus J
Posted by rodrigo on August 6, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks for the view, Buffs44.
Buff fans, how can you not love DS?
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