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Rivalry now a two-way street

CU-NU game means a lot to both sides

Andy Poulosky, right, and his Nebraska teammates are trying to grab hold of a bowl berth with a victory Friday over CU.

Andy Poulosky, right, and his Nebraska teammates are trying to grab hold of a bowl berth with a victory Friday over CU.

The R-word.

When Tom Osborne and the Nebraska Cornhuskers were competing for national championships in the 1990s they refused to use or acknowledge it.

Colorado was just another team on the schedule, no matter what color of marker Bill McCartney or Gary Barnett used to circle the game.

A lot has changed in Lincoln since the Buffs' 62-36 victory in 2001. Frank Solich was fired after a 10-win season, Bill Callahan replaced him and abandoned the option, and Kansas and Missouri are now the Big 12 programs competing for a national championship.

The good news, at least for ABC, is that the Buffs (5-6) and Huskers (5-6) are both talking "rivalry" when looking ahead to Friday's CU-Nebraska game at Folsom Field (10 a.m., Channel 7).

Although it's still not easy to do in Lincoln.

"They do try to make it into a rivalry game. We accept that. We make it one back," Huskers quarterback Joe Ganz said during a press conference this week. "They don't like us. We really don't like them. It's just a known fact."

Callahan is very popular these days in Columbia, Mo., and Sillwater,Okla., and especially in Lawrence, Kan. Nebraska's lopsided losses this season include: 49-17 to USC, 41-6 to Missouri, 45-14 to Oklahoma State and 36-14 to Texas A&M.

And those are just the home debacles. The Huskers lost 76-39 at Kansas. In football.

If Osborne, now serving as Nebraska's interim athletic director, doesn't fire Callahan at the end of the season it might trump Appalachian State over Michigan and/or Stanford over USC as the upset of the year in college football.

"I'm not worried about next week or next month or next year, for that matter," Callahan said. "I'm just really focused on this game. We can sit here and speculate and talk all we want, but really the gist of it is, we've got to get ready to play a good Colorado team."

Callahan's players proved that they were not quitting on the season during a 73-31 victory over Kansas State on Nov. 10. If the Huskers can win in Boulder they will probably be selected for a bowl game because their passionate fan base travels so well.

Osborne is expected to make an official decision on Callahan's future with the program on Saturday.

"You don't want it to be the 'Win one for the Gipper type deal,' but you really want to win it for him (Callahan) and all the coaches. And especially the fans," said Ganz, who threw for 510 yards and seven touchdowns against the Wildcats. "They've been through a tough year. We'd like to reward him with winning this last game and then going to a bowl game and hopefully winning that. There is kind of a sentimental value to that it, where we do want to win it for the coaches and players.

"We just want to finish the season with a win and a chance to go to a bowl game."

Ironically, Shawn Watson is Callahan's offensive coordinator. The same man who called the plays for the Buffs during their 62-36 win in the game six years ago that led to a Big 12 title for CU and Nebraska getting exposed as a fraud in the national title game.

"I think Coach Watson got Gatorade dumped over his head when we beat them last year," Ganz said. "It means a lot to those guys, just like it means a lot to us."

Sounds like ... a rivalry?

"I think it is pretty important to them, but it is pretty important here, too," Nebraska center Brett Byford said. "Probably more so the last few years, because in the Big 12 North we do not play like the Oklahomas and those teams every year. I think it has definitely grown a lot. I think it is getting bigger."


Comments

Posted by walto_clown on November 22, 2007 at 6:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh boy...here we go...

The deluge of husker fans, up in arms, on our board explaining how this game isn't a real rivalry.

A couple of preemptive points:

1. Happy Thanksgiving to all, regardless of the color your favorite team wears.

2. I think we all know that not everybody from lincoln considers this a rivalry.

3. No matter how "classy" you think your fan base is, visiting somebody else's board, explaining to them that you don't like their fans, or their town, and also that your fans are better people than their's (a theme that prevailed in many of the posts from two days ago) isn't really an example of that aforementioned "classiness"

4. It is probably unlikely that a CU graduate/fan who peruses this site will likely change his/her colors and admit that lincoln is a better town than Boulder, or that CU fans are terrible people.

5. As every year, I'm SOOO looking forward to this game. Win or lose, it's my favorite day of the year. No kidding!

6. Again, Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by Allblacks on November 22, 2007 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A couple of other points:

1. It'll be interesting to see what that CU student section does for entertainment this year.

2. A 6-5 CU team going to the Fort Worth Bowl will be lucky to sell 5,000 tickets.

Posted by homeontherange on November 22, 2007 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Additionally,

It will be interesting to see if our guests have lost any of the arrogance they have displayed so well over the years. I'm hoping they have eaten enough crow, that they could perhaps be tolerable.

Any way Happy Thanksgiving to all... We are truly blessed to be able to watch college football. There's no other sport like it.

Posted by TallyBuff on November 22, 2007 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't speak for the rest of you who bleed black and gold, but let me state for the record that while I have genuine respect for the majority of Husker fans, and respect for the excellence of the Anteater's football program, I HATE the Huskers.

I was born in 1962, was an undergrad during the 1980-83 seasons and a grad student for the 1986-1990 seasons. I was among the delirious in Folsom when we beat them in 1986, and damn near died when we tied in 1991. The 1992 drubbing in Lincoln still makes me ill.

But when anyone raises the R issue, I think it behooves those of us who bleed black and gold to keep in mind the ignoble record of our beloved Buffs against the hated Huskers. During my life time it is a sorry 7-37-1 (read it and weep below in the following post). It is true that we are 3-3 in the past six years, but let's face it: both programs have been struggling during that period with moments of excellence surrounded by a good dose of mediocrity.

Despite their dominance, many in the Husker nation have learned to hate the Buffs. I love it! Bring the noise, and jaw-boning, and silly insults. I hate the Huskers, refuse to wear red, and each year during Nebraska week I dress every day in black and gold like it was game day. A loss tomorrow will ruin my entire day and a victory will be more sweet than any rational account could justify. I have met the Huskers and they are the enemy!

I have to drive 7 hours to south Florida tomorrow to attend a rehearsal dinner for a friend's wedding, so I have located a sports bar en route where I can stop at noon and catch the game. I can't wait for kick-off: shoulder to shoulder, we will fight, fight, fight, fight, fight!

Posted by TallyBuff on November 22, 2007 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CU- NU Series Record since 1962

Oct. 27, 1962 Nebraska 31- 6 (B)
Oct. 26, 1963 Nebraska 41- 6
Oct. 24, 1964 Nebraska 21- 3 (B)
Oct. 23, 1965 Nebraska 38-13
Oct. 22, 1966 Nebraska 21-19 (B)
Oct. 21, 1967 Colorado 21-16
Nov. 16, 1968 Nebraska 22- 6 (B)
Nov. 1, 1969 Nebraska 20- 7
Oct. 31, 1970 Nebraska 29-13 (B)
Oct. 30, 1971 Nebraska 31- 7
Nov. 4, 1972 Nebraska 33-10 (B)
Nov. 3, 1973 Nebraska 28-16
Nov. 2, 1974 Nebraska 31-15 (B)
Oct. 25, 1975 Nebraska 63-21
Oct. 9, 1976 Nebraska 24-12 (B)
Oct. 22, 1977 Nebraska 33-15
Oct. 21, 1978 Nebraska 52-14 (B)
Oct. 27, 1979 Nebraska 38-10
Oct. 25, 1980 Nebraska 45- 7 (B)
Oct. 10, 1981 Nebraska 49- 0
Oct. 9, 1982 Nebraska 40-14 (B)
Oct. 22, 1983 Nebraska 69-19
Oct. 20, 1984 Nebraska 24- 7 (B)
Oct. 26, 1985 Nebraska 17- 7
Oct. 25, 1986 Colorado 20-10 (B)
Nov. 28, 1987 Nebraska 24- 7 (B)
Nov. 12, 1988 Nebraska 7- 0
Nov. 4, 1989 Colorado 27-21 (B)
Nov. 3, 1990 Colorado 27-12
Nov. 2, 1991 Tie 19-19 (B)
Oct. 31, 1992 Nebraska 52- 7
Oct. 30, 1993 Nebraska 21-17 (B)
Oct. 29, 1994 Nebraska 24- 7
Oct. 28, 1995 Nebraska 44-21 (B)
Nov. 29, 1996 Nebraska 17-12
Nov. 28, 1997 Nebraska 27-24 (B)
Nov. 27, 1998 Nebraska 16-14
Nov. 26, 1999 Nebraska 33-30# (B)
Nov. 24, 2000 Nebraska 34-32
Nov. 23, 2001 Colorado 62-36 (B)
Nov. 29, 2002 Colorado 28-13
Nov. 28, 2003 Nebraska 31-22 (B)
Nov. 26, 2004 Colorado 26-20
Nov. 25, 2005 Nebraska 30- 3 (B)
Nov. 24, 2006 Nebraska 37- 14

Source: cubuffs.com

Posted by husker27 on November 22, 2007 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not going to claim Nebraskans aren't viewing this as a rivalry. It's just the way it developed into one that bothered alot of people because it seems to be based soley on hatred by CU fans rather than the play the field. We always regarded OU as a rivalry but we showed respect for their program and fans. They felt the same way. Bill McCartney ignited this crap. There is no other Big 12 arena where the fans behave as the CU fans/students do. It's bizarre. That has made Nebraskans hate CU, not the fact they became more competitive and beat us a few times.

Posted by NCHusker on November 22, 2007 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The fact is, CU has not earned a rivalry (see above record). Husker27 hit the nail on the head. A rivalry does not come about when one team declares it, it comes about without prompting. It just evolves.

Posted by DCBuff1 on November 22, 2007 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great comments! Thanks for sharing the record TallyBuff. I am like you, a Buff from the 80s and 90s, and must admit I may have thrown that snowball that made the Husker kicker shank the ball wide right during the 19-19 tie. As long as nobody gets too hurt, I think it's just "kids havin' fun." Speaking of which, out here in DC, I was reading the Washington Post article about the Husker fans and their death threats against the Husker coaches and their families...Come on Big Red fans - that's serious stuff!! Time for you all to show a little "class!"

I have always thought that Big Red fans are classy -- when they're winning...

Posted by DCBuff1 on November 22, 2007 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One other thing... of course there's a rivalry, and always has been for over a century!! Rivalries are usually ingrained in the history of neighboring states, and between the largest universities of each state (e.g. Michigan-Ohio State). The state-to-state rivalry was evident from the moment Nebraskans began tampering with Colorado's water rights in the 1800s, or began coming out to our ski resorts in the 1960s (with almost as bad a reputation as Texans have on our slopes -- neither state residents can ski worth a damn!), or coming in the buy up real estate. I love it how Nebraskans vacation in our state; I don't know too many of us who like to vacation in Omaha.

It's that jealousy that Big Red fans have of our state that makes them ugly when they start losing in football. Why else would we want to goad you all on, when you come into Boulder yelling "Go Big Red" while wearing those dorky red slacks and cheesy and old fashioned logo'ed sweatshirts. It's really the "cool" Buffs against the "uncool" Huskers that makes the rivalry a rivalry.

Anyway, just some thoughts...

Posted by ColoradoPaul on November 22, 2007 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When I think about the comments that say you have to win for it to be a rivalry is hogwash. It doesn't recognize the present and future. The present is that both teams are achieving the same amount of success, the future for both is extremely bright. Look what has happened at KU and you can see how quickly proper coaching can change a program. I shudder to think what Nebraska will do now that Osborne is once again involved. This team will have a short turnaround time back to excellence.

The Buffs are already showing the benefit of an excellent football coach. Next season in Lincoln will be a battle. Returning to the rivalry idea I can only compare this to the Broncos and the Oakland Raiders. Throughout the '60s and '70s the Raiders dominated the series, and somewhat into the '80s. This has completely turned around and the Broncos are the more dominant team over the past two decades. But this is still possibly the most passionate rivalry the Broncos have, particularly for the fan base. My point is that past record doesn't have a lot to do with rivalry, I am sure the Raider fans would say the same thing.

The CU - Nebraska game has history and longevity. You are in deep denial if you don't think either team wants to lose this one.

Go Buffs!

Posted by rodrigo on November 22, 2007 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NC, dude, you are boring. As boring as Nebraska. Who gives a #%*(% if you think it's a rivalry. Who cares if anyone does. I believe I speak for all Buff fans everyone when I say there is simply NOTHING BETTER THAN BEATING THE HUSKERS! Rivalry or not, smackin' down the pinkshirts is so, so sweet.

Any way, Happy Thanksgiving to all, Buff and Husker fans alike. And bundle up tomorrow...

Posted by Rise_Against on November 22, 2007 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ask any of the late 80's early 90's Nebraska teams if this is a rivalry (playing for the Big8 Conf. Championship)...ask any of the late 90's Colorado teams is this is a rivalry...and certainly ask the 2001 Nebraska team is this is a rivalry (playing for the Big12 N. Champ & basically the Big12 Conf. Champ). Many years this is a game were the outcome has major implications for the college football landscape & this is one of the many reasons this game has become a big time rivalry. I can’t wait for Ralphie IV to come stampeding out for the last time and have Folsom rocking! Happy thanksgiving to all CU and nu fans!
UH OH BUFFALOES!!!
F-BUFF4LIFE-T

Posted by Realist on November 22, 2007 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Tallybuff...With a won/lost record such as this, how anyone can consider this game a rivalry is beyond me. A team must win more than occasionally to be considered a rival. When Colorado began playing the Huskers on the Friday after Thanksgiving, in place of the Huskers true rival Oklahoma, is when the Buffs began the rivalry myth!!!!

Posted by bzainthemd on November 22, 2007 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all those who think win/loss record makes a rivalry...think again. Navy/Notre Dame is a rivalry, ask anyone who goes to those schools. Navy got their first win in decades and the outcome was very meaningful to both schools. Cowboys/Redskins...Redskins have been horrible of late. Florida/TN...TN's record has been horrible. Colorado/CSU...we have owned them historically, and we Buffs consider them a rival. We're not too good to admit that (and yes they have been good of late and given us a game and it's been a great rivalry). It is NU arrogance that keeps them from embracing this. Yes, McCartney started this. We had a great team in the 90's and the winner of the NU/CU game was the winner of the Big 8/Big XII North most of those years. Then came 2001, and it's been a series ever since. I hate NU and can't wait for the game every year. Why is this the last game of the season every year and why is it televised nationally every year if it weren't a rivalry?

And for those NU fans that say we're bad fans...F$#K off. We don't give death threats to our coaches and I have seen horrible behavior from NU fans in Boulder over the years. We're passionate fans, that's it, and unfortunately kids act like kids and do stupid things. It goes both ways.

Here's to a great game tomorrow. GO BUFFS, Shuck the Fuskers!

Posted by JasperJohns on November 22, 2007 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well the rivalry really only started with McCartney, so the last 20 years of the record are really all that's relevant to the series in a "rivalry" context (though you're obviously free to throw our 1898 context into the mix if you really want to). Over those 20 years, Nebraska leads the series 12 to 6, with a tie in 1991.

The games in 88, 89, 91(tie), 93, 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, and 04 were all decided by a touchdown or less, with Nebraska winning 7 of those 9 games (98, 99, and 00 coming as losses to CU in particularly excruciating fashion). If CU gets one or two breaks in those games (a receiver doesn't drop a pass, a kicker doesn't lay out the worst squib kick in the history of mankind, etc) the season series over that time could easily be split 9 to 9, or even fall to CU's favor.

The point of what I'm getting at is this: The 100+ years of CU/NU games are clearly lopsided, but the history of the actual rivalry (mid 80's through present) has been absolutely spectacular. Half the games being decided by 7 or fewer points, classic finishes, program defining wins (01 for CU, and don't even try to act like 94 didn't mean a lot in Lincoln), and a lot of good old fashioned American disdain shared between the two fan bases.

Eff NU!!!

Posted by barton377 on November 22, 2007 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Colorado is everything that Nebraska is not. A beautiful state with a great university for athletics and academics. The so called class of Nebraska, and bugeater fans in general, is summed up in the despicable slogan of "sal is dead, go big red". That was '89,a year in which we slapped you bugeaters around. That only begins to tell the story of why we cant stand the bugeaters. Colorado is a beautiful state and we'd like to keep it that way, so you hillbilly nebraska fans make sure you head straight back to your crappy side of the border after the buffs smack you around again this year. As Hawkins so concisely stated, the worst day as a buff is better than the best as a husker. GO BUFFS!

Posted by GloryGloryColorado on November 22, 2007 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The disparity between Colorado and corn can be summed up by the mascots. A 1300 pound bison vs. an inflatable doll farmer.

Posted by bzainthemd on November 22, 2007 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW Fusker Fans,
If this isn't a rivalry, why are you on our site talkins smack? I for one don't troll the NU sites, and I do consider this a rivalry. If this game doesn't mean much, why are you here? And I agree with those above, if you can't handle coming to Boulder, stay at home in your crappy state. I'm not predicting a win because I'm a realist about CU. We're both having bad years, but we're improving and looking up, while NU is probably going to have some more heartache in the next few years given a coaching and philosophy change. But I'd love to see a BUFFS buttkickin' of the Fuskers tomorrow.

Happy Thanksgiving and GO BUFFS!

Posted by Bufftruth on November 22, 2007 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Per Webster: Rivalry

So how does CU-NU qualify?

1 a: one of two or more striving to reach or obtain something that only one can possess b: one striving for competitive advantage
2obsolete : companion, associate
3: one that equals another in desired qualities : peer

Posted by neb_cu_buff on November 22, 2007 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Happy Thanksgiving to all! I'm finally out of the corn filled, flat land, boring peopled state and in wonderful Colorado! Can't wait for the game tomorrow. I didn't see that many Husker fans on the highway on the way here today, so maybe we can keep some of them away, especially if it is probably going to snow. Nebraskans don't know how to react to snow, or any element of weather really. Anyway, Go Buffs! and I'm proud to be a CU fan, no matter what. And, Gee, the mountains look a hell of a lot better than the state of Nebraska. (the good life)......... haha. yah. Go Buffs!

Posted by neb_cu_buff on November 22, 2007 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HAHA! Your funny and full of it. Sea of red? I dont' think so. You guys will be in your 3 sections, just like any other visiting team, and there hasn't been a lot of red among the CU fans after 2001. I'm not trying to bring that game up and spot light in it, but really after that year, CU has done a good job of keeping out more NU fans, which is great. Nebraska has rolling sandhills, wow that's great. not. Colorado does have a lot of open space and agricultural areas in the eastern half, but not NEARLY as much as Nebraska. 3/4 of Nebraska is a bunch of NOTHING. Even more than that. Colorado is a big state, half of it is great mountains, which is something to look at and be proud of, and the other half of Colorado is all city from Wyoming to New Mexico on both sides of I-25. So, really Nebraska looks a lot worse than Colorado. As far as driving, ok, Colorado gets a little crazy with driving, but that's because it's a city and not a big farm. Slow is really not the norm here. In Nebraska it's slow all the time and they are usually big ugly redneck trucks. Go Buffs!

Posted by john.schmitt on November 22, 2007 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As far as Nebraska getting exposed as a fraud, I believe Colorado won a split national championship based on getting five downs vs. Missouri. Who's the fraud? I love living in the past as do Fluff fans.

Posted by john.schmitt on November 22, 2007 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, neb_cu_buff. How old are you? Bragging about your geography and that somehow makes you a better person? What an immature loser. You are probably one of the typical 99.9% of the CO transplanted population that can't even afford to go to the mountains.

Posted by neb_cu_buff on November 22, 2007 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HAHA! I go to the mountains every winter, all the time Fusker Fan. Just like the majority of Coloradans. Nebraskans talk crap about Colorado teams and the state, but yet, they come here to vacation, because there is jack to do in Nebraska, or anything worth doing or visiting. thanks,

Posted by huskerken on November 22, 2007 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The rivalry is dead the day after NU beats Cu. Hard to find a Buff fan after they lose. Football isn't such a big deal then. The only hope of a sell out tomorrow is if Husker fans buy all the tickets.

Posted by walto_clown on November 22, 2007 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I liked the part where lads said Barton had anger issues. Whew! That was good. Lads, no matter who wins this game, my guess is that you'll remain a sad little dude trying to convince others how great you are by cutting them down. Anger issues, indeed!

As for football being over if CU loses...not for me... I'm here every day of the year, whether I'm in the Middle East, or Europe, it doesn't matter. I don't miss a game, and I start my every morning checking out Buff news from several sources. I travel quite a bit, and have seen a lot of towns (and have even visited my wife's grandparents in nebraska a time or two), and Boulder still holds a warm spot in my heart. If the huskers prefer their home state, that's great! I happen to enjoy Boulder. What sort of odd person would try to convince me otherwise?

Posted by huskerken on November 22, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are exceptions. All the Buff "fans" I know only like baseball now.

Posted by tmfr15 on November 22, 2007 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a rivarly. It makes sense now. When the rivarly talk began back in the mid to late 1980s there was nothing there. No history. Just a lot of NU wins by big scores. The 1986 win was a landmark breakthorugh win for CU and the Husker and Buffs have been building a rivalry history for 20 years. Rivarlies are built on the following....close games, unexpected blow outs, big stakes, memorable plays and polarizing players and coaches. This game now has it all and it belongs on Thanksgiving Day. Nebraska and Oklahoma, meanwhile, has been out of the spotlight for almost the same period of time. Tomorrow's NU-CU snow game for bowl eligibility will add another chapter to the storied rivarly.

Posted by bzainthemd on November 22, 2007 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hlads, Huskerhen, John.schmitt, and all you other Fuskers trolling on our website,
As I said earlier, the mere fact that you are talking smack, truth, nonsense, or whatever you want to call it on our site is proof enough that CornFuskers think this is a rivalry. Why else would you be here if you didn't care?

As for geography...who cares? If you enjoy farms, then Nebraska is a great place to live for you. But if Colorado is so bad, then why are all you NU fans living in Colorado? Look, when you have things called cities, it brings all sorts of people, culture, attractions, traffic, etc...That's what makes CU and the Denver area great. If you hate Colorado so much, go back to Nebraska. And NU does have its share of bad fans. Trust me, I've seen them personally in Colorado and have been treated bad in Lincoln. I don't go trashing NU fans for that. You guys are passionate, just like us. And sending death threats to coaches to me is worse, albeit they are both bad, than throwing crap on the field.

GO Buffs, end Callahan's NU career tomorrow!

Posted by extrapoint on November 22, 2007 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ditto bzainthemd
If there was dead silence on this board from Husker fans someone might question it as a rivalry.
Someone else above was dissing McCartney for starting the rivalry. You would think Husker fans would feel honored that we picked them. If you wanna be the best you have to beat the best....or at least who used to be the best.
Instead we get guys like hlads, who have manhood issues he satisfies by proxy. He is probably the same guy with big red stickers all over his car who flips me off when he sees my CO plates in Lincoln, then speeds away when I pull over for a "chat"

Posted by GloryGloryColorado on November 22, 2007 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't wait to see ABC's cameras zoom in on a little red fan in tears in the 4th quarter, always a spectacular sight in this rivalry.

Posted by DCBuff1 on November 22, 2007 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Awesome comments GloryGloryColorado! Hey, wasn't Li'l Red a float in the Macy's Day Parade today? What a joke of a mascot, and it shows the class of the state when the mascot of the only team that the state of nebraska has (where are your pro football, baseball and hockey teams, chumps?) is an inflatable doll. I still see their fans wearing red polyester dungarees to Boulder for game time. I try and be polite and encourage them to change when I see them milling around -- usually near the Super 8 motel -- so they won't get their a$$es kicked at the stadium for looking so goofy.

The state of Nebraska -- and Lincoln -- are really ugly places and Nebraska mothers definitely wear combat boots. But remember NU fans, you all started this! NU fans started getting ugly when they started losing at Lil Red Football to CU. It really is sad that Lil Red Football is the only thing the state of Nebraska has to counter the insults they must receive around the world.

I'd love to see CU hang 40+ points on Nebraska's Pink Shirt defense, and have Jordan and the boys shut them down -- in our rebuilding year with our new coach. NU is totally OHHH-VER-RAT-ED. Southern Cal made them look like the weak team they are.

Posted by extrapoint on November 23, 2007 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

who has their "panties in a ruffle???"
read your own posts again.

what do you get when you cross a pig with a husker?
nothing
a pig wont mate with a husker

Posted by archalon on November 23, 2007 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like players on both sides hate each other - that is rivalry , despite the excuses of the fans on either side.

GO CU!!!

Posted by DCBuff1 on November 23, 2007 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice interception, Buffs. Always nice to knock those medals off the cornblowers' chests.

Posted by coereg on November 23, 2007 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well the stands may not be filled, but that doesn't mean that there aren't many who are tuned in. I don't see the Nebraska contingent that usually tracks to Boulder.
In addition- excellent game from several of the seniors. Devree, Dizon and Charles are all playing well. Wow - what a turn around in the 2nd half.

Posted by GloryGloryColorado on November 23, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Corn has to rebuild again. Colorado gets the #1 running back in the country and 2 of the best linebackers next year. MMMMMhhhhhhaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa. 57 points (and counting)? You corn fans are right, this isn't a rivalry. haha

Posted by rodrigo on November 23, 2007 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Game OVER, cornheads! My favorite memory of 11/23/07? Ganz dropping back to pass and Buff dbs running the other way with the football!

And by the way, nice d, Nebraska fans! Here's how I saw the second half: no Nebraska offense; no Nebraska defense; no Nebraska special teams; no Nebraska heart. It's hard to win when you play like that...

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great game Buffs! Prairie Dogs, head back to your wind-swept husker home. Enjoy the winter! We've had a lot of guests here at Buffzone over the years, but you were the rudest, most venom-filled, hating posters of all! How sad, when your entire identity is wrapped up in a team that fails to deliver. I won't miss you nu clowns for the next year.

Aviator and hlads, enjoy your sad, meaningless lives on the railroads in North Platte! Again, Go BUFFS!

Go Buffs!

Posted by Realist on November 23, 2007 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If a rivalry consists of ridiculing the State of Nebraska, along with vulgar name calling and throwing trash on the field, then I guess you might consider this a rivalry. Husker fans do not see it that way, because they have class. The Buffs do NOT. Review most of the above posts and hang your heads in shame. Comments like those are uncalled for and cause me to question the quality of education received in Colorado. By the way, only once in the history of this series has Colorado won more that two years in a row. 1956, 57 & 58. There have been a couple of ties sandwiched in between the wins. Does this constitute a rivalry? I don't think so!!!!!

Posted by extrapoint on November 23, 2007 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am really enjoying this.
Mr sour grapes doesnt know the quality of his own education.
Living in the dreamland NW, about as far from reality as possible he calls himself a realist.
Probably a nirvana fan.
Just what sent you over the edge against your alma mater "realist?"
Whatever you blame it on, I'm sure it was your own fault.
GO BUFFS!!!!!
WHAAAA Realist!!!!

Posted by Black_Rob on November 23, 2007 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah the husker fan with the death threat was a class act.

Nice Game Cody, nice game Hugh, nice game Dizon, NICE GAME BUFFS!!!

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

REALIST! YOU go back and read the posts! The visitors were far more foul, Mr. Selective Perception.

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's right, realist (misnomer). Go back, with an objective eye and read what lil red had to write as guests on our boards. Make sure you go back to over a week and start with your original venmous "poster child" nc husker. Shame on you realist. Shame on all of you. I held minimal ill-will toward huskerville until I read what you and your sad, sad fellow "fans" wrote this week. I now revel in your loss as much as I celebrate the CU victory. Go home, sad, sad little people of prairie.

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Only the rudest fan would dare go to another board to explain how superior one's fans were. Seriously...think about it. It's psychotic! Me and my fans are SOOOOO classy...so much better than your fans...

Even in loss, the smug huskers (k)now no shame. I'd be the greatest fan in the world if my team didn't lose for 40 years too! Welcome to reality, realist.

Posted by extrapoint on November 23, 2007 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

av8ter has probably sucked his panties up his rectum

Posted by rodrigo on November 23, 2007 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Realist... seriously? I kinda thought you made some good points every so often but the above drivel has me rethinking..

Walto, nice posts.

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aviator, I nearly applauded your return to Buffzone, but then read the self-congratulatory crap you deposited on our board. You're truly insufferale.

Have you ever considered that CU fans have treated you poorly because you're such a jackhole? I've never thrown a battery or a bag of urine in my life, but you could inspire me to such a pursuit. You're truly unbelievable. Don't worry about treating me graciously when I visit lincoln.

I believe that the rude posts that nu fans have left at Buffzone don't truly represent the husker nation. My step-father in-law played in the nu band, and I know several nu grads from work. All great guys/gals.

But based on your posts, you are a substandard human being...a truly self-righteous jerk! Don't believe me? Go back and read your posts. Or just read your last one.

Go Buffs!

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's the spirit aviator! I'd love to. Sadly, when you issued the challenge you were well aware that the anonymity of this board protects us all from the violence you offer. Still, I'd be delighted...it's been about seven years since I engaged in that kind of violence. But again, you're the sort person that inspires me (and apparently other CU fans) to such behavior.

Really, I'm just trying to explain that it is truly odd behavior to continually explain to one community how much superior your community is. I like how you establish the standard...clapping of all things...and then bring in supporting evidence from "experts" (coaches from other schools). Can you at least admit that you exhibit slightly anti-social behavior? I called you on your delusional stuff before, but you got all agro, so I'm not expecting much from you now.

By the way I'm an aviator too. For whom do you fly?

Go Buffs! Fly Navy!

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aviator,

Your 7:23 post makes nearly all of the points I was trying to make. I simply applied them to you. You don't get it. YOU'RE the bad fan.

Thanks for the congrats.

Posted by walto_clown on November 23, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aviator,

This is my last post, since we don't seem to be making much headway getting our points through to each other.

Every time Barton brings up "Sal is dead" you bring up the effigy of nu player. For every story of Airborne Rangers getting accosted in Boulder, a CU fan has a reciprocal story about an unfortunate incident in Lincoln. For all of the bad posts by CU fans on this board, there are equally bad posts from NU fans.

Here's the big lesson. There are different levels of sportsmanship within the fans for every school! So to lump all Nebraska fans into a single tendency is absurd. It's equally absurd to do it for CU fans.

Your approach which routinely states that your school has a higher class of fan WILL ruffle feathers. That's what I'm reacting to. It's been a recurring theme in your posts for the last two days. NU fans are better than CU fans. But you clearly believe the gross generalization. When you offer evidence it's always one-sided perception-based stories from your Husker pals. Seriously, go back and read every post on this board and see if you can objectively conclude that NU fans are somehow superior.

Good luck to the huskers in the upcoming years. I'm a huge fan of the Big XII and especially the Northern Division!

Posted by DCBuff1 on November 23, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ouch, cornblowers, down to the bottom of the Big 12. We will not think about you when we're down South for the bowl game.

Hey Buff fans, let's get back to our rivalry with Mizzou, since Nebraska isn't a worthy opponent any longer; it'll take them years to break .500 again.

I heard bugeaters all week talk about how the Sooners are their "true" rivals... yeah, right! Maybe NU can become rivals with Okie State -- with Coach "I'm a man, I'm 40" Gundy as their rival coach. Or maybe NU should look to SD State, and drop out of the Big 12 altogether. NU always was comfortable playing those types of teams.

Posted by TallyBuff on November 23, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Realist... the game became a rivalry when coach Mac was able to follow through on his claim. I am watching ESPN's Woody Hayes--Bo Schembechler rivalry special. In case you are unfamiliar with the history, OSU dominated the series for two decades when in 1969 Michigan hired Bo, a former OSU player (at Miami, OH) and assistant coash (at OSU). Bo declared OSU the rival and started to win games. In the mid-70s he hired a former Missouri Tiger, Mac, as an assistant coach. When Mac showed up in Boulder he declared NU our rvial and then made good on it. Huskers may not like it, but NU is our rival, and the great thing about it is this: many Husker fans hate CU, Colorado, and everything about us. You may not consider us your rival, but whatever: you hate us, and we hate you!

One last point: Buffs win, Buffs win, Buffs win!

Posted by coopersunc on November 24, 2007 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In order for this to be a rivalry, wouldn't NU have to be a "University"? The promos for each on ABC contrasted the fact that CU has the most NASA research contracts in the US, as well as 5 Nobel prizes and a real curricula. Oh, and let's not forget an All American who served on the US Supreme Court.

At Nebraska they are trying to use corn squeezin' science to fuel their John Deere tractors and of course there is the daunting legacy of Johnny Carson. Pretty sure that ethanol was around long before the Big Red Janitors of the Future Science Klub.

Lincoln is an angry little clown show. CU is a world class university. This is not a rivalry.

Posted by extrapoint on November 24, 2007 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have made some tongue in cheek comments about husker fan manhood issues, but it looks like av8ter really does have some.

Posted by walto_clown on November 24, 2007 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And don't forget Larry the Cable Guy! He cracks me up...

Posted by bzainthemd on November 24, 2007 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

av8ter1970,
I am a radiologist, graduate from CU, and your comments about NU's med school are way off. CU is ranked tied at #23 with the Mayo Clinic for top medical schools in terms of research and #3 in the country for top medical schools for primary care.

Nebraska is not ranked in the top 50 in terms of top med schools for research, although it is #10 in primary care. And futhermore, every major medical center has people flown in for treatment...it's called medevac. As a physician who has practiced in D.C. and California, I have never heard anyone outside of communities of the state of Nebraska flown into NU's medical center for tertiary treatment of anything.

By the way, University of Colorado is #35 for cancer treatment. NU's medical center and not even one hospital in the state of Nebraska is in the top 50. I'm wondering where you got your statistics from? Mine are from the US News and World Report.

Bottom line, I'm not slamming NU's medical school, because all med schools are good. I'm sure you can get a great education there and be a great physician. But to say NU's medical center is world class and is widely known for cancer research and all these other things, you are way off.

Posted by walto_clown on November 24, 2007 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Calahan fired today! Nebraska loses a lot of seniors this year and should be inexperienced next year (Ganz aside). Plenty of talent waiting in the wings, however...with the right coach (one who can leverage the speed that Calahan recruited) the huskers should be back on track in two years.

Posted by extrapoint on November 24, 2007 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

give it a rest av8tor
you are trying way too hard
No one here really hates the huskers. My wife is from Nebraska, and her family are all fine people (except for one snotnose great nephew) and bigred fans.
If I remember correctly you came on this board shooting your mouth off. Your team lost. Deal with it. I know it is hard after being spoiled and pumped with your own petard for so many years.

Posted by walto_clown on November 26, 2007 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladies and Gentlemen! I present to you another ambassador of the "classiest fans in college football" and representative of Licensed Mental Health "Professionals" everywhere!

Whew! I swear to God I'm going to miss you, Aviator. You're my favorite guest of all time.

Posted by walto_clown on November 26, 2007 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Aviator,

I've been nothing but constructive in my feedback to you. I've agreed with very little you've written, but have attempted to provide aan alternative perspective. Again, I encourage you to return and read the posts from the two chains on which we were both active. At no point did I, or will I sink to the depths that you have. Sorry we don't agree on how see the world...that's just life.

The episode that you address was terrible. I can't apologize, because I wasn't there. But yes, very innappropriate. I think all CU fans, today, agree.

By the way. Here's the first post I saw from you. "Odog, if you belive that you are a complete moron or just delusional. Are the voices in your head getting to you? Go take your medication bro, I think you need it."

Way to announce your presence with authority. You're the professional, how exactly do you expect people to react when that's how you represent yourself? You started strong, and finished even stronger.

Way to represent.

Fly safely,

Walt

Posted by Maura33 on November 26, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh My!!! This is entertaining... All of you Husker and Buffs fans alike... Get a life. I didn't go to school at UNL or CU. I spent my childhood in Omaha and Des Moines, and as an adult have lived in Chicago, NYC and now Denver.
I love all these cities for the great, cool people I found in each of them.

I saw about 15 minutes of Friday's game.
CU seemed to play well and they won, so I guess that speaks volumes.

I've only been in Denver six months, and I must say, I am entertained by this "rivalry" and now after reading these blasphemous statements (from both sides), I am little frightened. I had heard of this attitude but refused to believe it, so I decided to tune in for myself.
Wow!!! I am disappointed in both teams.
I am embarrassed for all of you. Do you remember I said it is a "game." That's right a game. Played for the fun of it, the sportsmanship, to demonstrate athletic ability. A game. Hello? Give it a rest. There's good and bad fans at both schools, you all know it.
Nebraska fans, yes... you get a little obnoxious & arrogant. It's only a football. CU fans you get a little rude.... get over it.... but it is supposed to be a game, right?
College athletic programs teach so many great things. Too bad it is fans like all of you who destroy the message.

Posted by Maura33 on December 5, 2007 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wait.... Now after the Omaha shooting where are all the comments? I live in Omaha until only the age of 13, but long enough to make many friends and remain in contact w/them. One of my best friends from an Omaha Catholic School and I were reunited in college at Rockhurst..... Sadly her father lost his life in today's attacks.... Ok so let's go Colorado... give me an even better reason to move back to NYC.... other than the men here lack intelligence are basically uneducated and illerate..."Hello Colorado Men... Have you ever heard of a book?" Now.... Let's rip on those loser Omaha folks who were killed today... C'mon... Arrogant, men of Colorado... you with you tiny little penis..... you with your huge egos, but petite, little Colorado balls.... let's let those murdered people have it..... "HI. HELLO... I AM A COLORADO MALE.... I HAVE A SMALL PENIS AND NO BALLS, NO BALLS AND PLAY WITH MY TINY PENIS ALL DAY LONG.....

Posted by Maura33 on December 5, 2007 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Woody Paige so lovely and classy.

Posted by walto_clown on January 15, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maura,

I'm very sorry for your loss. I believe the fans who post on this site maintain sufficient perspective to understand that real events supercede sports. No CU fan celebrates the tragedy in Omaha.

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