Great job Coach, keep em coming!

BUFFamily

1/26/2009 1:21:01 AM

Uh Oh a big Buffalo. A real big Buffalo. He has worked hard to get here. Glad he is....

status and whats left

buffs by postion then by interest...(only offers outstanding)

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=11&cfg=null&yr=2009&pid=-1&sspid=-1&iRatingValue=-1&iGetJUCOFlag=-1&iCommitFlag=-1&iGroupbyPosition=1&toinid=660&iInterestLevelId=3&iOffer=1&iRecruitVisitFlag=-1&OrderbyColumn=RatingValue

"Ten and No"

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 5:45:01 AM

Just a little concern about a one star rating. Maybe centers dont get much more than one star.

buffalobilly

1/26/2009 6:38:26 AM

...He also received scholarship offers from Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, New Mexico and Wyoming. ..

But he never listed anyone but Colorado as where he was considering

Buff Blood Nice

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 6:48:38 AM

I realize that recruiting could be a challenge after a sub-par season, but is anyone else as unimpressed by this recruiting class as I am? Granted there are some big names on the list: Kasa, Nuckols, Jackson, Simmons and Harris; and yet overall, I stand unimpressed, particularily as compared to my euphoria from last year.

Does anyone else feel the same?

earmuffs

1/26/2009 7:00:08 AM

ear.

Stars are in the mind of the beholder.

I think we have a great set of kids who can play the game at this level. Have the talent. Now they need to be coached up. It is what Hawk does.

Some needs have been filled...Still need a couple more WR ( the denver kid we need to get him)

The one and two stars have been targeted by Hawk from the very beginning. They are not late adds to fill holes.

Who was the biggest hit last year? Speedy............ and your euphoria had nothing to do with him.

Go buffalo grow em the buff way

..............

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 7:10:48 AM

Colt McCoy & Sam Bradford were 3 star athletes. Would you be ok with them leading your team, earmuffs?

CaliBuff

1/26/2009 7:22:25 AM

Of course the star system is to a great extent a subjective measure of excellence, but there is something to be said about a guy who obtains a 4-5 star rating during his high school days, versus someone who obtains 1 star. I mean its not completely fabricated. Is it a fool proof indicator, of course not, but it says something about a player's skill.

And truth be told, the videos we all view through Scout and Rivals are just highlights, making the player look as good as possible, right? Any of us could probably put together a highlight reel of Moschetti that would make him look like a top D1 QB. And of course we all know the reality of it.

So as good as a player may appear on a highlight reel, it is absolutely not a proper indicator of his true ability.

earmuffs

1/26/2009 7:41:14 AM

Ryan Clady was a 2 star recruite. He turned out pretty well. The stars are nice to have when talking trash on message boards, but results are what matter. Many of these players are still developing, growing, and learning the game. The last three players to hop on board (Simon, Bakhtiari, & Nobriga) sound like those kind of guys. Where we need impediate help (DL & WR) stars are nice. Everywhere else, I want players who will continue to develope and become 4-5 star NFL prospects.

Buff_since_76

1/26/2009 8:12:13 AM

ear, there was an article regarding recruiting rankings on both ESPN and SI and both said the same thing. While some linemen, mostly defense due to sacks and etc, get some attention, the article stated that many really good 0-linemen don't get the rankings that a "skilled" position would.

Good linemen are a skill that does not always gets the credit they deserve. Prevent a d-man from getting by and your doing your job, but in a D-line position sacks, hurries and tackles for a loss add up.

mgmtgrad@yahoo.com

1/26/2009 8:19:30 AM

Like I said before, I agree that the star system is not always a good measure of a player's skill or potential at the next level. But at the end of the day, how else are we as outsiders supposed to judge whether a recruit is good or not?

One way is to put our trust in the coaching staff, which I think most of us do in some way or another. Another way is to go by these highlight reels and videos on Scout and Rivals, which aside from their value of showing numerous standout plays by these individuals, show little else in their all around game. And another way is to go by the star system, and not from one site/ranking but from multiple sources.

If we are to go by the 1st option, then any class is a good class.

But my point is that if we are to go by the last option, I am still not thoroughly impressed with this group of players. It is not a knock on the players themselves, don't get me wrong. I hope they put on the black and gold and beat the piss out of Nebraska.

It is simply that this class, as a whole, does not live up to my standards, which granted may be too high. It may also be a consequence of having had a sub-par year as a team.

earmuffs

1/26/2009 8:33:35 AM

Welcome to the buffs, Shaun Simon.

this class has exceeded my expectations and glad to see you are part of it. You're going to love it here!

BuffAlone

1/26/2009 8:49:40 AM

I, for one, am glad to see these big O linemen committing. I think it is proven over and over that even an average QB can be successful if he has proctection and a great QB isn't when he is running for his life. It also helps greatly if the backs have even a small hole to run through.

My only concern is the ability to stay eligible. If he had to work to make the grades in high school... Let's hope it was just lack of motivation.

Ear, let's face it. We're not going to get the 4 and 5 star recruits out of Texas. They're going to stay home. What we have to do is keep the 4 and 5 Colorado guys, which we're starting to do. I do wonder why we're not making better inroads into Mullen. Is Logan not steering kids to CU? You'd think that prep factory would be a conduit to CU. Anybody have any insight into that?

oldbuffer

1/26/2009 9:02:34 AM

Hawkins and crew have a great support system for keeping athletes on track academically, provided they can first get into CU.

Simon will have every chance to succeed in the classroom as well as on the field.

Think he's a great get.

BuffAlone

1/26/2009 9:25:05 AM

I am really heartened by the quotes I am seeing from the recruits who are choosing Colorado. "Everybody there was a big family".

I have not been back on campus in awhile, but that is the way I remember all of CU....a big family. Frankly, I will trade some of the dumb, jug head athletes and top twenty finishes every year for better people and achievers. I just muted a Florida fan the other day by pointing out that their own rival, FSU, just did something Florida will probably never do...produce a Rhode Scholar who could play in the NFL. I believe there are only two other teams to do that...and one is Colorado.

phibuffa

1/26/2009 9:58:13 AM

Hawk can recruit. That's been proven year in and year out no matter where he's been. I think Hawk could care less about the number of *'s a dude's got. He looks at intangibles like the attitude the player brings to life instead of just the way he performs on the field. This is because Hawk can take a guy who would maybe ride the pine at most D1 Schools and make him into a performer.

BuffulanceMan

1/26/2009 10:08:43 AM

i think hawk is putting together a fine class,considering the down season,i also feel the more O linemen,the better,and remember hawk is innovative enought to have wanted to put a guard at fullback,till the kid transferred for personal reasons.And there still might be a surprise or two by feb.4.

whocares

1/26/2009 10:12:06 AM

I am impressed with this recruiting class. Star ratings are for shmucks. You recruit quality guys that fit your needs and thats what hawk has done. Plus he has consistently kept the top guys in Colorado and thats truly impressive

buffalo_flyer

1/26/2009 10:17:15 AM

Okay Montana....

What is up? I need some junk food....now...

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 10:30:54 AM

Was Hawk's in-home with Diante Jackson's family last Friday or this week?

I don't care if this class is top 25, I just want the true need areas, WR and D-Line, to be Top 25. We need to fill a few big needs and then have a good 2009 season and we'll be fine.

Recruits need to see us turn the corner (win!) and know we have a QB who will get them the ball consistently before they start choosing us like they should.

Saheeb

1/26/2009 11:01:49 AM

Assuming everyone on the current commit list is solid with CU, except for question marks with Diante Jackson and Andre Simmons, what are the remaining mysteries?

Jackson - do we keep Diante?

Simmons- will Snyder convince him of potential academic qualifying issues to get him to KSU?

Ussery, WR - is Ussery coming our way?

Emory Blake, WR - who knows?

Markish Jones or Jewel Hardy, JC WRs - going to these guys as back ups if Diante, Simmons, Ussery or Blake don't come through?

Bryan McDougald, DB - where is he going? What's happened with him?

Justin Brown, DT - us or UCLA?

Chris Freeman, OT - will friendships with Rippy and Stewart bring him to town?

Eddie Williams, OT - can we steal him from UCLA?

Byron Moore, DB - any shot at him at all? Are we in the running at all? Looks like LSU or Notre Dame for him.

Bryce Petty, QB?

Josh Moten?

Others...? Many mysteries this cycle.

Saheeb

1/26/2009 11:05:18 AM

I AGREE 100% WITH BUFF FLYER

BUFFSFANEAST

1/26/2009 11:12:52 AM

Saheeb - And therein is the problem with the recruiting cycle so far. Do you realize that we have question marks beside our top two WR prospects. I mean this is the one position where we desparatly need help and the guys are not 100% on board or may have academic issues. That's insanity at this point and it is another reason I am not imnpressed. And as so 2/4 surprises, those may not always bode well for us.

earmuffs

1/26/2009 11:22:12 AM

earmuffs good points. You too saheeb.

Key will be the receiver recruits and how they sort out.

A little DB help would be nice also.

Ten and NO

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 11:28:32 AM

I think we're in good shape at DB for the foreseable future. I think we'll need a few next class for sure but can afford to only get 1-2 this cycle. I think you're right on that it's WRs and how they sort out this class that is so critical.

Also, I'm a bit surprised that we ony have two DTs and DEs, albeit seemingly good ones in Nuckolls, Kasa and Bonsu (possibly West too). I would have expected to land one or two more good ones.

Still some time. WR situation is most unnerving right now. Hopefully they all come through and/or stay with their current commitment.

Saheeb

1/26/2009 12:27:11 PM

stuff

there are 6 offers out to wide receivers

there are 4 offers out to the oline

there are 2 offers out to the Dline

there are 3 offers out to Dbacks

one to a rb and one to a TE

jeepers if the all stay and hit we could have like a class of 33 okay probably not.

Again I like this class..Could it have had more with higher stars..maybe maybe not.

I do like the fact that the lower star number guys were target early..... Shaun is a prime example of this

TEN and NO for the Buffalo

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 12:43:34 PM

Regarding the stars, players earn a big part of their reputation as Juniors and then build or drop from that base. If a player is injured or doesn't break out until their senior year, they will not be on the radar to begin with to get the higher stars.

This is the exact situation that several of the "lower" star commits that CU has fall into. Read up on their profiles. They all have news stories about them beyond Scout and Rivals. Bench warmers don't typically have news stories written about them.

Good scouting/recruiting finds these guys. This is what the network of HS coaching relationships is most valuable for. If not, then all the coaches would just subscribe to Scout and Rivals and only recruit the kids that they said were the best. Never mind finding the best fit for the program.

BuffTime

1/26/2009 12:53:32 PM

BTW, CUBuffs has an updated roster for 09 up now.

http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&SORT_ORDER=6&Q_SEASON=2009&PRINTABLE_PAGE=

BuffTime

1/26/2009 1:00:52 PM

I think a good example of the questions being raised here is Parker Orms. I watched him play in the 4A state championship and he was incredible. I knew he had committed to CU and kept thinking where they were going to play the kid? He was a two star at the time, now is a 3 star and they are looking at him for safety. The kid is a gamer, plays with heart, and I am glad he will be playing for CU. He could be a one star and it wouldn't matter if you saw what he did in that game. You need kids like that on your team. Dizon is another example of what dedication, hard work and passion for the game can do.

clbuff

1/26/2009 1:17:59 PM

48 sophmores with 23 RS (frosh)

Montana i need some analysis on this roster

jeepers...did I miss a year?

TEN and NO for the Buffalo

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 1:21:54 PM

Agree with earmuffs that this class does not have the "wow" factor. However, I look at what Hawk is doing and whether I think he can coach kids up and make any player better that truly wants to be better and I come to the conclusion that this is a good recruiting class. I think the only hole is unfortunately the WR position which concerns me b/c we couldn't seem to catch last year. Although part of that was simply the fact that the pressure on the quarterback led to receivers not getting the ball when they were open. If we get at least 1 good WR in the class then I am happy with the class. Can't expect too much given last year's results.

I think Shaun Simon will be a great O-lineman for the Buffs. Perhaps not this season but soon enough to make us all laugh about this chat later.

COSBUFF

1/26/2009 1:47:58 PM

Did anyone notice that the roster says Katoa is going to redshirt?

NJBuff

1/26/2009 2:00:26 PM

Hey COSBUFF and Muffs...Kasa chose CU over Florida. The national champs. Again.

Thats a wow factor in my book.

NJBuff

1/26/2009 2:03:04 PM

Evan Finkenberg is ASU bound thankfully , I am hoping for Eddie Williams and Chris Freeman to fill out our linemen quota and hopefully another DB and get this WR stuff figured out. Kasa didn't want to get lost on the depth chart at Florida not only that but the Mountains of Colorado look a lot better then the beaches of Florida. Might as well play in Gods Country .

afsco@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 2:09:08 PM

The 2009 roster I am looking at says he is listed as a sophomore. It should really say RS-Freshman but that is besides the point. I don't think this is a completely up to date roster in terms of all the info being up the date, but it did take out the players who are no longer on the team due to either graduating/running out of eligibility or leaving due to medical or personal reasons. Cases in point for the last 2 are Kyle Black and Jason Brace who both left the team due to medical/personal reasons.

You might be confused by the "This season" part of Katoa's profile if you click on his name, but none of those are updated from last season. The main list shows him as a sophomore (again he should be listed as a redshirt freshman). I'm sure they will update all of that once the commits from this class are known.

As a side note, I wonder if anyone will sign as a greyshirt? How does that work exactly as far as numbers in the class goes? Does Paul Vigo for example count toards last year's class or this years class in terms of eligibility numbers?

BuffTime

1/26/2009 2:12:01 PM

I liked Finkenberg. Once the class got as full as it did though he dropped down on my target list due to needs. Maybe they asked him to walk on or greyshirt?

BuffTime

1/26/2009 2:14:30 PM

Anyway, my last 4 hopefuls are now:

Chris Freeman, Eddie Williams, Terdema Ussery and either another WR or defensive player who can make an impact maybe next season already. If Brown can become eligible then he is my guy, otherwise probably WR.

If one or more of the WR commits falls through I wonder if any of the JC guys or any other decent "fallack" guy will be available after the 4th...

BuffTime

1/26/2009 2:17:46 PM

Hawk needs to quit messing around and if JC Jewel Hardy who wants to be a Buff and has the grades to get in and didn't mess around a JC, give the man an offer and let him come in and play. At least he wants to be here not like these other kids that are riding the fence going back and forth.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 2:22:10 PM

The key there is "if he has the grades". He might even have the GPA from his JC, but not have the right classes that CU accepts. After the PT Gates deal where he kept saying how he was getting everything squared away and how he was definitely going to be a Buff, I think Hawk knows that he can't count on many JC guys making it through the CU qualifying process.

There is surely lots of information that Hawk and his coaches are working with that none of us (nor Scout or Rivals) have that they are basing their strategy on. We are close to the wire now... We need at least 2 more impact WR to join our current WRs for next year. If they are already among our commits then great. If not, they need to be added to this class. I count 4 good WRs on our current roster. I think we need at least 6 and that means adding at least 2 good ones now.

BuffTime

1/26/2009 2:31:39 PM

I know that Jarrod Darden got injured in school was a knee I think but since no word is out on his recover does any one have any info on him and how about James Johnson WR Ht: 6-1 Wt: 195 40: 4.6 , high on Oregon but still has interest in CU.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 2:43:44 PM

If I'm reading the roster correctly, it's saying that Katoa was unable to redshirt last year due to his ineligible grades and is taking his redshirt this year - hence in 2010 he'll be a 3rd year Sophomore.

NJBuff

1/26/2009 3:03:22 PM

Where are you reading that? Could you provide the link please?

BuffTime

1/26/2009 3:08:58 PM

AT COLORADO: Lynn Katoa (This Season (Fr.)-He enrolled ay Colorado for the spring semester after graduating high school in December. He was set to participate in spring practice, but his alleged involvement in an off-field incident resulted in being suspended. He won't have the required number of credit hours to participate in the fall, and thus will likely redshirt. It is on cubuffs.com roster.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 3:17:39 PM

From CUBuffs.com:

"AT COLORADO: This Season (Fr.)-He enrolled ay Colorado for the spring semester after graduating high school in December. He was set to participate in spring practice, but his alleged involvement in an off-field incident resulted in being suspended. He won't have the required number of credit hours to participate in the fall, and thus will likely redshirt."

This is from 2008, so not updated and it says that he "will likely redshirt" this past fall. He enrolled early in January 2008, got in trouble and was not allowed to take classes. Due to this he didn't have the required credits for an early enrolled player and had to redshirt. He is not a sophomore in terms of eligibility. He should be listed as a RS-Freshman. At least I think that is the correct label for him. He still has 4 yrs to play 4.

BuffTime

1/26/2009 3:19:42 PM

Bingo BuffTime, what we know is scratching the surface. I realy don't get the star system at all anymore. Notice how it gets changed regularly. Grossnickle was a one star for ever, two weeks ago he became a three star, so there you have it.

Lets just hope our best players don't take themselves out due to injuries before even the first game like last year.

vegasbufffan

1/26/2009 3:37:25 PM

I hope the WR situation works out. But at the end of the day, if the two top guys we have currently at that position (based of course on the rating system) drop out, without adequate replacement, I think that this class will go down as dreadful overall. We need to land 2-3 top flight WRs. If Coach Hawk can't get that done, that I'm sorry but this class is suspect for the reason that it does not address our fundamental needs.

earmuffs

1/26/2009 3:38:33 PM

Here's to hoping this is true:

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/cu_sports_blog/archives/2009/01/its_our_secret.html

BuffTime

1/26/2009 3:53:30 PM

ear

dreadful seems a little harsh. Agree on the wr stuff.

But I would say the fundamental needs have been met. Again stars are stars and the moon is the moon. I am happy with the kids in this class. I have read a lot about them in local papers etc. Never watch the highlights..... I think we "snuck a couple a way from the enemy" like we snuck speedy...

Aggressive patience is what is needed.

Spring game will give us a great indication as to holes that this class can fill right away. Also agree several are immediate redshirt candidates for "all kinds of maturity growth."

TEN and NO from the Buffalo

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 3:53:50 PM

Montana,

We need some of your info on the remaining prospects.. There is info out there.... I know you know.. :-)

BuffTime

1/26/2009 4:01:37 PM

WR is a key need, but will not make or break the recruiting class by itself. Next year we add Simas & Blackmon to the rotation. Simas alone will lift the talent at the WR position. Everyone who has watched the Buffs practice say he is heads above the other WR. Also, Simas has been working with Ballenger and Hansen on the scout team, so the next QB will most likely have really good chemistry with him. If J-Fly continues to improve, and is relieved of KR duties to improve his health, he will be an every down threat. Last year our #1 WR was Scotty McKnight, and next year he will probably be the #3 - #5 best receiver on the team. I don't know much about Blackmon, but Kyle stated we should see good things from him next season. I do hope we are able to get Simmons. As a Juco, Simmons should be contributing right away. That would give us 6 WR to start the season, and a much improved core over last season. It would also allow all freshmen to redshirt, unless they show they are ready for D-1 football.

Buff_since_76

1/26/2009 4:12:45 PM

earmuffs, any ideal how the sooners are doing based on your very high criteria? You seem to have a feel for this...especially how bad the Buffs are and will be. A comparison would be interesting from your personal perspective...

Just asking.... based on the following

..I think that this class will go down as dreadful overall...

.. If Coach Hawk can't get that done, that I'm sorry but this class is suspect...

...I realize that recruiting could be a challenge after a sub-par season, but is anyone else as unimpressed by this recruiting class as I am?...

..I stand unimpressed...

.. Any of us could probably put together a highlight reel of Moschetti that would make him look like a top D1 QB. And of course we all know the reality of it....

..That's insanity at this point and it is another reason I am not imnpressed. ...

..One way is to put our trust in the coaching staff, which I think most of us do in some way or another....

..It is simply that this class, as a whole, does not live up to my standards, which granted may be too high. It may also be a consequence of having had a sub-par year as a team....

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 4:13:02 PM

Sorry...I ment 5 WR. Typing error.

Buff_since_76

1/26/2009 4:17:29 PM

you guys are starting to get annoying when it comes to begging montana for information. if your gonna ask him when you wake up in the morning or before you go to bed at nite, you should just buy a subscription my god

nolanjp

1/26/2009 4:41:50 PM

..........what kind of cheese do you want with that wine nolan? my god......i enjoy reading the posts and your "panty bunchd" whining always annoys me.....here's a tip nolan, read the article, contribute a take and dont read the other posts---keeps you from getting annoyed and whiny, my god........are you the real napoleon dynamite nolan?--"enough recruiting posts, goddddd!"..

buff4life

1/26/2009 5:08:09 PM

your wife probably takes care of you buff4life

nolanjp

1/26/2009 5:11:41 PM

alright a little action.

Nolan, you got heaters on them their trains? My sons twin sister rolled the Santa Fe Freight.. No fisticuffs.

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 5:19:40 PM

ep you out there boy?....I have a question for ya.

TEN and NO

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 5:21:02 PM

Sorry guys, it's been a long day ....

If you think that getting a scam email was bad (and again, I apologize profusely for that), I can't get back into my hotmail account (my hacker changed the password). So, I'm not getting emails at work, and I can't access Court information like I normally would. It's not over yet, but it's been a trying day.

Sorry I don't have much info for you just yet. I can tell you that Rivals is reporting that OT Evan Finkenberg, who was in this past weekend, opted for Arizona State today ...

Both Blake and Ussery are on the verge of announcing their commitments, but that is nothing new ...

If you need to get a hold of me, my cuatthegame@gmail.com email address was unaffected, and the website is fine.

Go Buffs!

http://www.cuatthegame.com

montanabuff@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 5:28:41 PM

....your wrong nolan, it's your wife that takes care of me, and take "care" she does.....jus cut down on the whining bro, its all good........hey at least those pesky, filthy lil red roaches from norman and lincoln are gone for now, that RAID i sprayed into my computer finally worked.....RTD.....episode II......coming fall 2009......stay tuned....run, ralphie, run......

buff4life

1/26/2009 5:41:26 PM

"Monty" fight the good fight.....we will never surrender.....Nuts.........

Did you get the 3 grand? How many times

Uh Oh Montana been buffaloed

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 5:41:58 PM

not that it matters but just for comparisons sake.

wagondriver OL recruits

ht wt rival stars

6-6 348 3

6-6 299 3

6-5 347 3

cream corn OL

6-5 261 3

6-7 270 3

6-6 280 3

6-5 261 3

The Buffalo OL

6-6 270 4

6-2 310 2

6-4 265 2

6-4 266 2

Young Buffs.......

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 6:14:55 PM

and the current "one year older buff O-line" Big Bad and Buffalo

http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&SORT_ORDER=6&Q_SEASON=2009&PRINTABLE_PAGE=

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 6:21:55 PM

I've heard rumor that Stan Brock (ex Army Head Coach) is close to being named OL coach.

Anybody have any info on this?

BUFFAV8RNTX

1/26/2009 6:34:59 PM

I like the 2 new grad assistants that Hawk brought in. One is a former Buff Paul Creighton who played TE for CU and then spent the past 2 years on staff at Auburn. The offensive GA is a former WR from ASU with NFL experience. Hopefully that helps sway some WR recruits our way.

BuffTime

1/26/2009 6:36:04 PM

THe Stan Brock rumor is mentioned by Ringo on his blog today. Look on the main BuffZone page. Nothing official yet though.

BuffTime

1/26/2009 6:40:45 PM

Bufftime,

Ah, thanks. That would be an interesting (good) hire.

BUFFAV8RNTX

1/26/2009 6:47:41 PM

Anyone else trying to get into the Monday chat with Ringo? It's past 7pm...

BuffTime

1/26/2009 7:29:37 PM

BT

No Joy

vkberlin1

1/26/2009 7:31:31 PM

Yeah, no luck in accessing the chat. Kyle, where are you? We miss you!

MDBuff

1/26/2009 7:36:57 PM

I heard former Illinois State coach Denver Johnson interviewed recently for the offensive line coaching position on Hawkins' staff. But the job might go to former CU offensive lineman Stan Brock, who spent the past two years as the head coach at Army.

From Kyle Ringo of the Boulder Daily Camera

afsco@hotmail.com

1/26/2009 7:46:12 PM

Kyle, was it something we said? Please have a chat! It's the highlight of my week.

MDBuff

1/26/2009 7:46:16 PM

Hey Kyle,

If you're busy talking on the phone or something to Terdema Ussery, Chris Freeman, Eddie Williams or another highly coveted recruit and he is telling you about why he just committed to the Buffs then it's cool. Or if you have some juicy story for Buffzone tomorrow that you are putting the finishing touches on then that is ok too. I would prefer the first option of course though. :-)

BuffTime

1/26/2009 7:49:46 PM

Why is there such a difference in rating between scout and rivals. I personally go with rivals, they seem to have a lot more info and their ratings seem to make more sense. Don't get me wrong, I like Casa's 5 star rating on scout but come on, we're in the mid 40's on rivals national ranking but 58th on scout. Oh well, just goes to show the services don't always predict how well a team will be with the rankings. I mean speedy was a 2 star and Scott a 5 star and look who performed better. Anyways, the guys they get can become all-Americans if coached well and with hard work so here's to an excellent 09 class!!

Go Buffs!!

buff75

1/26/2009 11:43:19 PM

From the Denver post today, Jim Armstrong wrote a good piece. He is about the only guy there that has a brain!

..."The point is, considering where he started, Hawkins has done a good job. And where exactly did he start? The answer can be found in a number: zero.

That's how many Buffs were invited to the NFL scouting combine. It also happens to be the number of CU players who played in all-star games. Number of such eligible players recruited by Hawkins? Also zero.

CU had 56 players drafted in the 1990s, many of them No. 1s recruited by McCartney. In the first nine years of this decade, the number stands at 25. And without a player going to the combine, the number will stay there

shoulder2shoulder

1/27/2009 7:36:51 AM

another good not this morning

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/cu_sports_blog/archives/2009/01/its_our_secret.html

shoulder2shoulder

1/27/2009 7:43:34 AM

Chip recently bagged first place in the Universal Cheerleading Association's Mascot National Championship competition in Orlando, Fla.

The Buffs are on the way up! Way to go Chip!

ThaiBuff

1/27/2009 8:01:11 AM

ear- I have never seen a center as a 4 or 5 star. 3 is as high as that position goes.

And i am impressed with the class so far! According to rivals we are in the top ten in the wide receiver category. not to mention i think we have addressed our greatest needs.

I would like to see one more WR, a DE and 2 Db's

flabuff227

1/27/2009 8:40:45 AM

I posted this on another thread, thought this would be a good place as well. It's a story about Nobriga, our newest LB pledge.

http://www.nevadapreps.com/boys/football/stories/38429854.html

LVBuff

1/27/2009 9:33:55 AM

flabuff - not sure if this link works but rivals has 6 centers with 4 stars:

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2123

As of right now, we have addressed the WR position but I am hesitant to jump for joy because there are question marks with the top two guys. So my enthusiasm is somewhat muted.

For everyone who is so particularly impressed with this class, notwithstanding the fact that the average rating is only 2.67 according to rivals (down significantly from last year if my memory serves me right), I guess I wonder what would be everyone's reaction if only 1 and 2 star athletes were coming on board.

Would you all still be as impressed because ratings don't matter and/or the coaches obviously know what they are doing? Or would you start having more doubts?

earmuffs

1/27/2009 10:06:30 AM

Given how Hawk has addressed critical needs with every class, including this one, and the coaching staff have been after these guys for a while and they aren't last minute targets to fill roster spots, I would say I trust Hawk and his staff. They've done their leg work. And they also are not done yet. This class has room for 22 and as of now stands at 18. Let's wait until the 4th to review the quality of this class. Check that, let's see how they pan out in a couple of years under Hawk and the other coaches and then see if we have a team of Dizons and Speedy's or a down year.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 10:57:02 AM

Very interesting analysis in SI about the 2005 class of QBs and how hard it is to predict QB play from high school to the college level.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/01/26/05-qb-class/index.html

Saheeb

1/27/2009 11:16:39 AM

earmuffs, look at the targets that Hawk went after this year (by position rank).

http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=9&c=4&yr=2009

Looks to me like Hawk got most of his top targets. Again, it ain't over yet and a couple of our new guys are under the radar guys who missed time in the junior year.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 12:00:34 PM

..Would you all still be as impressed because ratings don't matter and/or the coaches obviously know what they are doing? Or would you start having more doubts?..

aaaaah nepa kenney.....sweeter words but still you.......

ear and muffs very interesting.. Your backhanded cutting questions give you away. But I will say that at least the tone is okay even though your questions only want negative answers.

Go Buffs......TEN and NO

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 12:11:27 PM

VK - comparing me to any Nebraska or Okie imbecile that uses this forum for nothing other than to spew their hatred for CU football is insulting and offensive.

My questions were legitimate and meant to invoke thoughtful responses. My original point was that I was not overly impressed by this group of players. That is not a knock on the players themselves and I said that I hope they each achieve greatness. It was simply that I felt we had not pulled in enough 4 star athletes.

I admittedly based my opinion on the ratings from Scout and Rivals, because at the end of the day, we as fans as limited with respect to our knowledge of these players. How can you say that my opinion is misplaced because it is based on a star system while your happiness with respect to this class is perhaps based on nothing more than a highlight reel and newspaper articles?

I also conceded that the star ratings were obviously not fool proof and numerous postings by others mentioned the same.

Many of these fellow buff fans went on to say that they were indeed impressed with this group of athletes and again that the stars did not matter. So my question regarding whether these individuals would still be impressed if all of these players got 1 or 2 stars is absolutely legitimate.

earmuffs

1/27/2009 12:23:54 PM

ear

sorry but thats just how it is.

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 12:42:43 PM

Has your opinion changed from what you've read about the lower star recruits? I would hope so.

West for one had lots of programs looking at him prior to his junior year when he had a training room accident and could not play. Junior year highlight film goes a long way towards setting the star level for a given recruit. It also is the point that coaches start recruiting. They don't wait until the senior year and for the stars to come out and relative position ranking etc.

They are on guys from the junior year. Hawk and his coaches stayed with West even though he didn't have a junior year.

As for Simon, the Buffs were also recruiting 2 of his team mates as you might remember. Simon also didn't play until his senior year (not uncommon at the school he comes form which is a big time program in OK). They likely benefited from their time recruiting his teammates by being able to scout him to. If not he likely would not have gotten on their radar.

Similar deal to when they were recruiting Doug Rippy and he led them to Speedy last year. Or the scouting of DS that led the coaches to his uncle J Fly.

It speaks volumes to the quality of the relationships that Hawk and his coaches develop with recruits (that not only do they want to come but they want friends of theirs to get looks to). Or coaches are so comfortable with them that when they come to look at one guy they suggest a look at others while they are there. Those are called pipelines in the recruiting game and Hawk is showing that he can develop good ones.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 12:52:37 PM

8 days to go

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=11&cfg=null&yr=2009&pid=-1&sspid=-1&iRatingValue=-1&iGetJUCOFlag=-1&iCommitFlag=-1&iGroupbyPosition=0&toinid=660&iInterestLevelId=3&iOffer=1&iRecruitVisitFlag=-1&OrderbyColumn=RatingValue

Looking pretty dang good for a lot of reasons

Uh Oh more young buffalo

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 1:13:49 PM

Some good ones still on the board for sure. It will be a really interesting week... Likely pretty frustrating too.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 1:30:26 PM

Look who IS coming to town....(!)

http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=9&c=6&yr=2009

Saheeb

1/27/2009 1:32:33 PM

On scouts it says he has "no interest" so this is interesting Saheeb.

Says he has high interest in ND (visit November) and high interest in LSU (not visit...yet)

Jeepers

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 1:40:04 PM

On a more positive note, the fact that Moore is coming to Boulder 4 days before NSD is huge news. Last one to make an impression. Bufftime - you definitely have made some very valid points, particularly when it comes to West. I had read the same thing about his injury and the consequences to his rankings. As much as I hope we got a steal, I am also concerned over potential damaged goods.

earmuffs

1/27/2009 1:44:18 PM

Interesting if you take what rivals says and what scout says. He might not officially be interested, but that visit date is the same date that rivals lists for him being at LSU. If we can swipe his visit away from LSU that says a lot.. Also, last minute visits tend to mean more than mid season ones as far as what it says about a recruits interest level.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 1:48:15 PM

On rivals it has Moore listing CU, Cal and ND as medium and USC as low.

Top notch DB coming to CU, based on both rankings and the fact that USC made him an offer? That would be a huge boost to this class.

earmuffs

1/27/2009 1:48:31 PM

Also good is that he is being recruited by Mr. Hagan.

Buffalo Blood

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 2:23:44 PM

Moore "de-committed" (is that a word?) from USC Jan 23. He'll be in Boulder Jan 31. Coincidence? We'll find out Feb. 4th. I don't what impresses me more aobut this guy - that he has a 3.0 GPA, a 1200!!! SAT score, or that he can obviously start for the Buffs at WR AND DB.

We need this guy.

Go Buffs!!! 10 wins in '09.

BuffulanceMan

1/27/2009 2:25:29 PM

Oh, and Hagan is listed as his recruiter. This is eerily sounding similar to DS last year... one can only hope...

BuffulanceMan

1/27/2009 2:27:44 PM

earmuffs :) Moore was committed to USC has since decommitted has high interests in LSU & Notre Dame , scout has no visit date for LSU but lists a visit for CU on 01/30/09 but shows he has no interests in CU , so my question is if you have no interests in CU why come on a visit?

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 2:31:20 PM

Remember how euphoric we all were last year with the recruiting class? The jury is still out but I feel that last year's class will prove out to be as good as we thought. However, to have a very good solid class you don't have to recruit the #1 running back or receiver in the country every year. For those that aren't impressed and question what and who we think we are getting this year (earmuff; and I too am sort of leaning toward VK as I don't know what to make of he/she/it, could be our cyber pyscho) I can't imagine how you are unimpressed. The best player in the state and some of the other top players in the state. More OL which we can never have enough of and other players that continue to add to the depth of the team and add quality competition at all positions. This will be a very good class regardless of the ratings as this is the class that the coaches wanted. This coaching staff is not recruiting a bunch of slugs. And as always the true value won't become apparent for at least a couple of years.

AZBuff

1/27/2009 2:35:08 PM

I'm sure Moore's "interest level" in CU may change when the writers/DB update dude gets around to it, or after he visits. some kids probably just want a free trip to colorado, but then they get here and are impressed. we'll see. but, if he's blowing off LSU to come here I'm sure he is somewhat open to considering CU.

vkberlin1: yeah, i agree, great that hagan is on him! BuffulanceMan: yes, gotta love the gpa and sat scores. get kids who will qualify, will go to class and stay on the field too! all good.

this could potentially be a real coup ala nick kasa storyline, i hope.

Saheeb

1/27/2009 2:37:22 PM

and also the qb josh moten now has CU rated high (from low to medium) after his visit last week, along with Washington.

Also recruited by Mr. Hagan.

nolan isn't he the guy you wanted and said you would by me dinner if the buffs got him?

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 2:38:42 PM

moten is down to cu and uw, allegedly.

mcdougald is deciding between wisconsin and cu.

rope in mcdougald AND moore and what a haul for greg brown's secondary. here's hoping.

Saheeb

1/27/2009 2:40:44 PM

Prediction,

Based on the outstanding offers, and a couple of positive events, Hawk will sign 26 this class and that is his big surprise...telling us its 20 to 22..what a guy

Hawk is a Buffalo

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 2:41:43 PM

For this class to really turn out we need to get the DB's rolling and Moore would do that.

What we need is a nice article to talk about some of the guys that red shirted had some great potential in there. A couple of safety's that I'd like to see how they are coming along like Ewing and especially Hicks.

bradDaBUFF

1/27/2009 2:45:00 PM

How many open scholarships does Hawk have for this year? I know he said he expected to sign 20-22, but is that all of the spots available this cycle?

Man I wish Ringo had not blown off the chat last night... that was one of my questions for him...

BuffTime

1/27/2009 2:46:55 PM

Getting a bunch of good players and being able to red shirt them is huge for a program. The more we get the better. Even if they don't have a bunch of stars behind them.

Is FSN doing a signing day special for CU?

bradDaBUFF

1/27/2009 2:58:57 PM

I would still like to get Eddie Williams & Chris Freeman with them and our other O Linemen , I think CU will be set for years to come with some power football. Getting some road graders on the O line and getting the running game going will open the passing game.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 2:59:10 PM

They list Shaun Simon as a Center but I bet he makes the field this year as a DT with Edward Nuckols at least this recruiting season we got some beef for D Line middle.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 3:27:28 PM

AZBuff - I can't imagine how you are so impressed. What are you basing your enthusiasm on? You said it yourself that true value will only come in a couple of years probably because some of the players will red shirt. The fact that a guy is 6-5 and 280 does not necessarily make him a good player.

My point is that your position that the recruits are top notch, which I assume is based on your confidence in the coaching staff and perhaps some video footage, is as subjective as my more subdued impression of the squad that is primarily based on the star rankings.

As you correctly point out, we are expected to sign arguably the top player and some of the other better players in the state. Great. I am extremely happy about that, although that should be the norm, rather than the exception. But our class is not made up of 1, 2 or 4 guys. It is judged on the 18 that have so far given us a verbal commitment. And in my subjective opinion, I expected us to do better.

Do I hope that I am proven wrong...absolutely.

earmuffs

1/27/2009 3:34:27 PM

Do I hope that I am proven wrong...absolutely.

Are you sure?

earmuffs, there is just something.............

Stars to do not fall from the sky. They are "awarded" by people...supposed experts.......sometimes they are correct sometimes they are wrong....you can read articles about it like some posted above ...the QB

Not only is the class judged on more than the 4 guys it is judged over 4 or 5 years.

I guess it's just a matter of "half empty or half full" as well as the major factor in "trusting the coaching staff who are making the decisions."

Just something about how you post ear (corn) muffs (buffs) that rings a little creamy....

but at least this "version" appears to have manners.....

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 3:48:20 PM

Per ESPN last week - "Yeah, I went ahead and decommitted today," Moore told ESPN affiliate WeAreSC.com. "I just felt USC wasn't the place I wanted to be and I want to look at some other options out of state. Right now it's pretty much Notre Dame and LSU, with Notre Dame in the lead. I'll probably take a trip down to LSU next week.

"I kind of feel like I want to go to school out of state, see something new on my own, go somewhere I will get a good education and have an opportunity to play early."

Also on that same day this was reported by Rivals that his finalists were Notre Dame, LSU, and Colorado.

Things do change in this wacky world of recruiting. To beat out LSU for a final visit is huge. Moten had a great time on his visit and they are teammates. I hope he has a great visit this weekend.

By the way I enjoy reading all of the banter that goes on in here. You guys are always good for a laugh.

bigbuffwv

1/27/2009 3:54:23 PM

Hope Moten and Moore are close and want to play together. The only common school they'll both have tripped to will be CU.

Found a good link to an ESPN story on Moten and RB Carl Winston. Winston gives Wash. State academics a better grade than CU's? He needs to do his homework. That's like comparing Wash State football to CU; no contest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=West_Recruiting

Saheeb

1/27/2009 4:02:53 PM

so there are like 90 guys on the 2009 roster. Some must be walkons.....?

Thought only 85 scholarships at anyone time.

Jeepers Montana get home from work...Ringomiester is still missing in action..

How many can he give this cycle......?

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 4:12:09 PM

Eddie Williams profile story says he went to HS with two current Buffs , I got that figured out to be Michael Sipili and Sione Tau they both went to Honolulu, HI (Damien Memorial HS)now hopefully these two young Buffs can help sway Eddie to become a CU Buff.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 4:18:12 PM

Or BJ Beatty, perhaps?

Saheeb

1/27/2009 4:34:18 PM

Hey Saheeb the article says two former Buffs and the only two i can find that went to the same HS are Sione and Sipili but if i wasn't so cheap i would pay for a Scout subscription nope i am cheap won't do that Feb 4th is right around the corner.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 4:40:01 PM

Pretty sure it is Sipili and Tau that went to school with Williams.

And Rippy went to school with Chris Freeman.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 4:44:12 PM

Oh wait, I forgot, nepatism is bad and we shouldn't be happy about any ties bringing top quality recruits to CU... Sorry. Won't happen again.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 4:46:04 PM

Hey did you get your survey letter from the AD?

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 4:54:53 PM

Are we seriously at the stage where we have too many good prospects to choose from for the remaining spots? How many can Hawk potentially bring in this cycle? Doesn't anyone know? Where is Ringo?

Did anyone think we would be in this position this year considering all the belly-aching that went on just a few weeks ago regarding the low number of recruits?

BuffTime

1/27/2009 4:55:05 PM

nepotism is fine, but there's a 6'0 height or 4.6 speed minimum requirement. :)

Saheeb

1/27/2009 4:56:25 PM

26 in the cycle..... man that is the surprise

Hawk is a tricky one..H take a memo on that..

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 4:56:54 PM

saheeb is that with or without spikes

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 4:59:01 PM

EP where are you?

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 5:00:57 PM

VK, where do you get the 26 number? I thought there was a yearly cap at 25...

BuffTime

1/27/2009 5:02:31 PM

EP is on some beach in Mexico.. I think... he mentioned something about that in one of his posts a few days ago.

BuffTime

1/27/2009 5:03:26 PM

vkberlin1: hair spikes are fine as are cleat spikes, but not both. unfortunately/fortunately, that still eliminates cody.

Saheeb

1/27/2009 5:22:24 PM

how about hair spikes,cleats,and shoe lifts,get cody in there somehow. Or maybe just give him a healthy line and wr's,and turn him loose.

whocares

1/27/2009 5:31:23 PM

that earmuff dude must have blinders also

whocares

1/27/2009 5:32:39 PM

...love the 'posts' my fellow buffs!!!.....buff nation "talkn" and gettn excited as a future big 12 and national champion is assembled!!!..........RTD.............episode II....WORLD PREMIERE---FALL 2009 at invesco field or in boulder?? v the colorado state lams.....stay tuned!!!.......shoulder2shoulder........

buff4life

1/27/2009 5:33:04 PM

plus a def.and spec.teams that will give cody field position for a change.Now that would be an interestin scenario

whocares

1/27/2009 5:35:36 PM

arkansas has 31 so who knows

how i got 26

have 18

more that are shown as high 4

HAWK SURPRISE 4

TOTAL 26

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 5:42:12 PM

BT, I believe you are right..

Uh Oh EP a beach buffalo

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 5:55:57 PM

Moten is a dual threat QB who isn't particuarly tall. He's being recruited by Hagan, another dual threat QB who isn't particuarly tall but led his team to a national championship. Let's see if Hagan can sway this kid -- and then that may help bring his teammate Moore our way too.

Saheeb

1/27/2009 5:57:59 PM

Uh Oh 26 young buffalo

Saheeb good points. Man I just hope the H can crank up the offense especially the dang running game. I still get pissed looking at the rushing yards the last 5 games

What a frigging joke.

Okay I fell better now.

Go buffs

TEN and NO

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 6:15:01 PM

I'm very confused right now... when I google "how many football scholarships are allowed" I find several sources that say that there can only be 85 players on scholarship. How many do we have on scholarship now? Because I keep counting that many as already being on scholarship not including the incoming class...

BuffTime

1/27/2009 6:27:36 PM

vk - back from work!

Can't add much to what is actually a good discussion about CU football, above. All I can add about Moten is that yesterday he told Dawgman.com, the UW version of BuffStampede.com, that he no longer considered himself a "soft commit" to Washington (Moten first committed to UW back in December).

So, if we follow the logic (not that there is much logic with 18-year olds) .... If Moten was already a commit to Washington, what is left to announce tomorrow? If he was going with the Huskies, why tell their reporter that he was no longer a soft commit?

If his choices are now down to two ....

I dunno. Sounds good to me, Buff fans!

Get one Harbor City grad this Wednesday; get another one next Wednesday!

Go Buffs!

http://www.cuatthegame.com

montanabuff@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 6:30:47 PM

can one of you knowledgeable buff fans give me your 09 cu starting lineup?

HappyBuff

1/27/2009 6:32:52 PM

BT - here is a link to what the Buffs have right now in terms of eligibility ...

http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=9&c=16&yr=2008

99 warm bodies, counting the 18 known recruits. Take away the 18 from this year's class, and we're at 81. Logic tells you that the Buffs would have four scholarships left to offer.

But since when does logic play a role in college football? We have to look at greyshirts (count against next year), and the fact that no scholarship is guaranteed from year to year. There will be attrition through injury, suspension (God, let's hope not!), grades, or, simply, not making it on the field.

If I were a CU kicker, I would be watching the signing day total verrry closely.

Go Buffs!

http://wwwcuatthegame.com

montanabuff@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 6:40:49 PM

vk, got the survey. Filed it out and requested beer sales! This class is looking good in it fills need and depth. Heres to 2/4/09!

mtnboykev35@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 6:53:24 PM

montana,

I count 81 (not including this incoming class). That number however includes: Kyle Black, Celestine, and Justin Brace. Celestine and Black left the team and Brace ended his career due to injury. The first 2 I am confident are not counted but Brace might be as I don't think Hawk drops injured players from scholarship, but they might not count anyway.

That still gives us 78 players already on scholarship (if the rest of the scout numbers are correct). How can we be adding up to 22 players (Hawk's numbers) if that is the case? I don't get it. Or is it 85 within a 4 year window?

If the 4 yr window is the key then we can have at most 23 for this next class, which would leave no walk-on scholarships available unless someone leaves the program.

Come on Ringo, help us out here..

BuffTime

1/27/2009 7:13:45 PM

dag nab it I want 26

Make it happen Montana..

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 7:14:14 PM

some of the guys on that grid are walk ons. Also, Kendrick Celestine is listed, and he left the team.

halluxvalgus

1/27/2009 7:14:34 PM

Who on the list is a walk on still?

BuffTime

1/27/2009 7:15:49 PM

Okay montana splain this one to us....

http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=9&c=16&yr=2008&nid=665

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 7:19:02 PM

Bisnow, Clark, Cooney, Espinoza, Jaffee, Ham, Poremba, Sale, Sandersfeld, Shanahan, Stengel, Stevens, Gouin, Walters...

halluxvalgus

1/27/2009 7:26:42 PM

I remember reading an article somewhere about all the different ways schools can make it free or close to for kids without it counting towards the scholarship limit, especially with in-state kids. So there is no way to know who exactly counts as a scholarship other than when the coaches say so.

Turov

1/27/2009 7:32:36 PM

or you can just read the media guide, where it shows "S" or "WO" next to the player's name.

halluxvalgus

1/27/2009 7:34:49 PM

Hall,

Your are a tricky one eh? Smart as well.

https://admin.xosn.com/pdf1/133318.pdf?SPSID=4690&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 7:51:59 PM

Good call, Hall. By my count we have 21 scholarships available, then. Anyone else get a different number?

Turov

1/27/2009 8:20:30 PM

Check that, more like 18 I think. Hudgins and Burney are coming back, right? I'm not seeing how Hawk gets to 22 unless some more people are leaving the program we don't know about or he's switching some to walk ons.

Turov

1/27/2009 8:27:17 PM

current 2009 roster

http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&SORT_ORDER=5&Q_SEASON=2009&PRINTABLE_PAGE=

vkberlin1

1/27/2009 8:27:58 PM

some of you need something more interesting to do with your lives. february first is a few days away, relax, and what happens happens. at night vk has nightmares about landing a 4 star wide-receiver when we have no scholarships left.

nolanjp

1/27/2009 8:47:57 PM

After taking official visits to Washington and Colorado, Josh Moten is about ready to announce his college decision. The three-star prospect from Harbor City (Calif.) Narbonne plans to make the call on Wednesday. "I like both programs and I appreciate the love that both coaching staffs have shown me,â Moten said.

afsco@hotmail.com

1/27/2009 9:57:57 PM

Vk Ignore that last comment! If he was relaxed, he wwouldn't have so many negative things to say.

go buffs- f nolan

flabuff227

1/27/2009 10:01:36 PM

just a reminder,all verbals are non-committal till the fourth,i mean all of them,not just the buff ones,it's fun building up to national signing day,(we have to do the work our selves)ringo must be overwhelmed,this looks darn good for the buffs,and might get a bunch better!

whocares

1/27/2009 10:17:39 PM

nooollaaannn,quit pickin on vk.

whocares

1/27/2009 10:22:34 PM

No problem with nolan.

He's a train guy like my great grandfather my grandfather and 4 uncles

It's just how train guys are.

vkberlin1

1/28/2009 6:10:56 AM