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Posted November 29, 2007
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Thought I would share a few odds and ends I've heard through the grapevine today.
This is stuff I've been told but have been unable to officially confirm either because I haven't received a return phone call or people are not ready speak up. I figure why let that stop me from entertaining all of you.
Anyway, I hear Ryan Deehan, a 6-foot-4, 230-pound four-star tight end from Poway, Calif. gave coach Dan Hawkins an oral commitment this week.
Deehan would be the third four-star recruit in the 2008 class. I tried to confirm with him Wednesday, but he hasn't called back. Maybe it has something to do with his house burning down in those awful Southern California wildfires earlier this fall.
Deehan was also considering Oregon and Arizona State, two teams that have had pretty good seasons.
I hear the Buffs are headed to the Independence Bowl and Oklahoma State will get the nod for the Insight Bowl. Apparently, the Independence Bowl isn't high on the idea of having OSU play Alabama for the second year in a row. I'm betting they would still get plenty of country bumpkins in the stands anyway, but what do I know?
So, it could be the Buffs and Alabama or the Buffs and South Carolina in Shreveport, La. I hear CU officials will have plenty of time to entertain any media members and alumni who decide to go to the game cause it's not like there will be a ton of CU supporters there in the first place. CU doesn't have a many alums in the area. Shreveport is 1,000 miles away. It's a tier-three bowl against a Southeastern Conference team in SEC country. Tell me again why this makes sense?
You can visit the Independence Bowl website here: BUFFS BOWL
I hear the Buffs are headed to the Texas Bowl in Houston if Missouri loses the Big 12 Championship game on Saturday night. Please, God, no. The last Buff bowl trip to Houston produced a victory in an almost empty stadium.
But I'm sure this also makes perfect sense to bowl officials and Big 12 Conference bigwigs, as opposed to putting CU in the Insight Bowl in Phoenix where it has about 18,000 alumni and only a four-hour drive from 39,000 more alums in Southern California.
I hear CU could have avoided all of this by beating Iowa State.
I hear people up at CU are beginning to wonder why they play this tough nonconference schedule each year only to have Big 12 Conference officials allow them to be passed over in the bowl selection process for a team that played Sam Houston State, Florida Atlantic and lost to Troy and features orange as a primary color.
I'm hearing the women's basketball team beat UNC 69-60 Wednesday night. I'm thinking, really? North Carolina? Then I remembered it was Northern Colorado and I thought, really? But in a whole different tone.
Have a awesome day.
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Posted by JasperJohns on November 29, 2007 at 5:47 a.m.
To be fair to Okie State, they did lose to Troy. Can it really be considered a true cupcake non conference schedule if you lose one of the games?
Posted by phatmack on November 29, 2007 at 8:22 a.m.
Nice post Kyle... In response to the bowl projection: WEAK.
I guess I can understand the Independence Bowl folks not wanting a rematch of OSU vs. 'Bama but I, like many others, would rather it be the Insight Bowl (for a number of reasons). Seems two of three "Bowl Projections" I ran across agree with your prediction. OTOH, it will be cool to play Alabama... I think.
Hope to find out, for sure, soon!
Posted by archalon on November 29, 2007 at 8:30 a.m.
And they wonder why Buff fans wont travel to the game - Shreveport ?
Insight should pick CU for not only alumni in area, and possibility that they would travel well but also because they are an up and coming team.
I gaurantee I wont be in Shreveport but Tempe AZ was a plan to go
Posted by roscoebuff on November 29, 2007 at 8:35 a.m.
Man, that is disappointing to hear. My family was already contemplating New Year's in Tempe.
Still, all things considered, an essential road game against an SEC team would be a good litmus test for the Buffs in a bowl setting. In a sense, they would be going down to Louisana on a mission --- and we sould be playing a much stronger opponent from a tougher conference with much more speed on the edges than a Big 10 squad in the desert.
I think we would probably handle Purdue, Iowa or Indiana...a win over tradition-rich Alabama might open more eyes around the country and give our guys more confidence heading into next year.
It is a sad commentary, though, when we play Fla. St, CSU, Arizona State, and not only are penalized in the won/loss column but in our bowl prospects also. OSU got bitch slapped by Troy and they got pummeled by OU, a team CU beat.
If we end up in Shreveport, the 7 Buff fans who actually attend the game are probably going to need to wear jackets...It is often cold there.
Posted by rodrigo on November 29, 2007 at 8:52 a.m.
Please, God...no.
Posted by Saheeb on November 29, 2007 at 10:16 a.m.
I'd rather we play Alabama even if it's on the moon and no CU fans are at the game. TV viewers nationally, I think, will tune into CU-Alabama. Despite 6-6 records it's two teams with powerhouse histories, national champs and some cache. I believe such a match up would help recruiting, I believe, and give us good exposure. Playing in Tempe against Indiana we'd get fans there. But, I doubt anyone would tune in to watch the game. And, I doubt recruits would even bother to see us play. I think Alabama-Colorado gets us great exposure. Playing S.Carolina wouldn't have nearly as positive of an effect, but at least it would be game against a name coach that the media loves to follow. The Texas Bowl would be a huge downer and achieve nothing -- even if we win. I hope it's CU-Alabama, personally. Do we know for sure that if Mizzou loses we'd drop to the lowly Texas Bowl?
Posted by Saheeb on November 29, 2007 at 10:22 a.m.
RoscoeBuff: I agree on the lack of attention/respect for CU having played the third (or fifth) toughest schedule. I think Ohio State, Hawaii and Kansas, unfortunately, are likely proving that you won't get snubbed or penalized by the BCS for playing a cupcake non-conference schedule. I have always taken great pride that we play the best teams around. But, another Miami of OH on the schedule or two and we'd be 7-5 or 8-4 for sure. It's really unfair how little credence these bowl people, the media and the pollsters give to schedule strength when it's time to make the real decisions, like bowl game worthiness.
Posted by SnowBuff on November 29, 2007 at 10:55 a.m.
Pathetic choice by the BigXII bowl officials. This whole year has been about rewarding cowardice (or, in Hawaii's case, the cowardice of the teams that would not play them... *cough* USC).
To let OSU into the better bowl is just awful. AWFUL. THEY LOST TO TROY!!!
As to those who think CU-Bama would get more TV coverage... How is that a good thing when the recruits see a stadium EMPTY of CU fans?
Thanks for the info Kyle... That Tight end commit isn't program changing, but a solid athlete at the position sure can't hurt.
Posted by rnorthro14 on November 29, 2007 at 10:55 a.m.
Saheeb - So many advantages for CU to play in the Insight Bowl over the Shreveport #8 in the Nation in Murders Bowl.
CU would have at least 10,000 if not much more going to Tempe. I doubt even 2,000 fans would head to Shreveport. Do you want that advertised on national TV? Conversely, its only a 5 hour drive for OSU fans to Shreveport. Its an expensive flight to Tempe from Okie City compared to from Denver, SD, LA and all other places where CU alum tend to live.
And really there won't be many recruits watching the bowls anyway. I know some homebodies are upset about the NFL Network televising the Insight Bowl but there is a decent possibility that cable will have a contract set up before bowl season. The network has a marquee NFL game between Dallas and Green Bay coming up and that alone may help bring about the change.
Finally, I hear that the Insight Bowl does want CU but its Boone Pickens and his multi-million dollar trust fund thats making waves for OSU going to Tempe.
It is not necessarily a done deal. Heck, even Ryan Deehan is far from a done deal if you read his latest comments as of Nov. 29 to the Oregon rivals.com recruiting guru.
Posted by jdub925 on November 29, 2007 at 11:09 a.m.
KYLE!!! Please don't post recruiting rumors, this will hurt the program more than it will help. Just wait until you have confirmation or leave recruiting to rivals!
Posted by Saheeb on November 29, 2007 at 12:11 p.m.
SnowBuff & rnorthro: You make good points. I hear you. But, let's the say the Buffs play in (god forbid!) the Texas Bowl against Houston. That's relatively close to Colorado. So, let's say the stadium is filled, however unlikely that is, and half of it is rabid CU fans. I just don't think there's as much return in having recruits see your fans travel to support you versus playing a name team. I see your points and I know my stance is definitely debatable. But I still think recruits are more impressed by CU playing (and winning) against a name team versus someone like Indiana. Last year Nebraska played a subpar Michigan team. But, it was still Michigan. I just think there's more bang from such matchups rather than a full stadium. Anyhow, fire away. Let's hope Missouri takes care of OU and we don't have to worry about playing Houston...
Posted by SnowBuff on November 29, 2007 at 4 p.m.
Hell, the damn game better be on TV somewhere. I really wish we had beat ISU and one of the Kansas teams. Then the Holiday bowl would still be possible.
The sad thing, in this "age of parity" just demolishing any old team has more kick then it used to. Nevermind that despite the fact that upsets are more common, they are NOT par for the course. Teams that lose to Troy and win just a couple of meaningless games should be punished.
Posted by Realist on November 29, 2007 at 5:08 p.m.
You folks sound like you believe you should be playing in the national championship game. Remember, your record is only 6&6 and 4 of those wins were against CSU, Miami (OH), Baylor & a 7 loss Husker team. Also, while you won all 3 of your south division games, including a great win over the Sooners, the only game you won in your own division was Nebraska. Be happy with what you get and hope you get some fan support. Don't let the Big XII down.
Posted by SnowBuff on November 29, 2007 at 5:26 p.m.
I dunno. Nobody is talking about natl championship. Seems to me most of us (understandably) just don't want to go to Louisiana....
Prettty sure you are completely wrong with the tone of the conversation going on here. Nice try though.
Now go back to whichever team you actually belong to but don't have the guts to declare for
Posted by mulder1010 on November 30, 2007 at 2:59 a.m.
In the long run the game on ESPN would be better then on NFL network. I am in AZ and very bummed to read that. Then again, I keep seeing that in all the bowl predictions. From CNN/SI, ESPN, and Collegefootballnews.com. It makes a lot of sense actually. Indenpendence Bowl is the big boy for ESPN on that day so why not have an attractive team like CU and Alabama. Texas Bowl??? Ugh, who wants to play Houston without Briles there? TCU and Houston is a better matchup.
OSU can bring 10k more people to Tempe and CU has been to Tempe already this year. Yes CU has a big base in AZ and SOCAL but if CU is on ESPN again that says they believe CU is close to being back.
Whatever all of you say I will take a CU/ Bama game because it does have storylines and is interesting and it will be the big game of that day on ESPN.
As for scheduling I do agree. I would get upset that CU does schedule an aggressive schedule and the rest of the big 12 dozes off and plays Florida Atlantic. OOPS OSU had a home and home with them. Troy is a legit team, OSU found that out already.
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 7:15 a.m.
observations:
Saheeb lives in Lousyiana (I got that term from an ex-patriot friend)
The good news is we are going to a bowl. the bad news is.......arrrgghhh
Why does the Independence Bowl even exist? A post season home for second tier SEC teams and punishment for anyone else.
People from Stillwater can drive to shreveport faster than they can drive to a real airport, change plains at another airport and fly to Phoenix.
Yes northro, the Boone Pickens thing hits home. They dont want to go to Shreveport either. I had a running battle
on these boards a while back with some west coast alums about switching conferences. They are beginning to make sense.
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 7:20 a.m.
I would like to know if Realist is going to Shreveport? Dont let the big 12 down.
What a dweeb
Posted by Saheeb on November 30, 2007 at 9:05 a.m.
re: extrapoint: "Saheeb lives in Lousyiana." Huh? Do elaborate. I couldn't be farther from there, chief.
Posted by Saheeb on November 30, 2007 at 9:11 a.m.
Question: Do we need two Big 12 teams in BCS games or three to end up in the Independence Bowl and avoid the lowly Texas Bowl? If Missouri loses, are they for sure out of a BCS bowl game? I think Kansas is projected to likely end up in a BCS game no matter what happens this weekend, but I could be wrong on that. If we only need two Big 12 teams in BCS games, if Missouri loses then is it assumed Oklahoma would move into a BCS slot? So, we'd still have two in BCS games and be assured of the Independence Bowl game? Can anyone add clarity here...?
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 10:21 a.m.
sorry bud
but other than having a girlfriend in Shreveport (shudder) living close to there is the only logical explanation for your willingness to go there.
As far as the BCS thing goes, it has always been about money. A BCS bid means major bucks compared to non BCS bowls.....and I think the participating team shares some of that money with the entire conference.
So....as many teams in the BCS as possible.
We should still scrap the confeence championship games and go to a playoff system.
The bowl people whine about their system bringing in more money, but I cant believe that by looking at the big dance.
Posted by Saheeb on November 30, 2007 at 10:40 a.m.
extrapoint: unlikely. I have no desire to go to Shreveport. If you're going to make jokes, at least be funny. If you want to slam people go on Jim Rome. Here, I assume everyone is a Buffs fan and was intelligent enough to pick CU, get in and graduate. I'm not here to rag on people and get into pissing contests. I come to gather insights and share viewpoints with fellow, loyal CU fans, not waste time on smack-talk. It's rarely clever or funny anyhow. I wrote comedy for Leno and Letterman in the late '90s. You've got to have better material than "Lousyiana" to get a smirk or rise out of anyone. Why don't we just stick to pithy cerebralisms about football and leave it to other luddites to feed their weak egos by taking tepid shots at one another that aren't particularly witty.
Posted by trubuff on November 30, 2007 at 11:22 a.m.
Whats the newest word on Darrel Scott? Is CU still a possibility?
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 11:44 a.m.
wow
I touched a nerve!
(mission accomplished)
I'll bet there are a few "loyal fans" out there smirking at your reply.
If you truly did write for Leno it appears you can dish out the smack but have a very hard time taking it. Maybe its because you already have something stuck up your anus.
Posted by bouldabuff on November 30, 2007 at 12:11 p.m.
Trubuff...from what Mr. Ringo posted a week or so ago it seems like D.Scott has a very, very good chance of becoming a buff.
As for the bowl, oh well--yeah Shreveport sucks but after our performance in Ames I thought there was no possibility of a bowl anyways. At least the Independence Bowl is on a viewable TV network--and it is the only bowl being played on the 30th of December so it should get some good ratings.
Alabama or South Carolina?
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 1:30 p.m.
tough choice
I would love nothing better than burying Steve Spurrier.
on the otherhand
I still remember the 200 + yards Bobby Anderson dumped on the Bear.
Darrel Scott wold be great. Rivals had a question mark teaser about the solidity of Polk's commitment. I only subscribe to Scout. Can anyone fill in on his status?
Posted by bouldabuff on November 30, 2007 at 2:08 p.m.
Polk's commitment is still solid, he'll be in Boulder next year. Hicks, the safety from Texas, on the other hand seems a little unsure.
I wanna beat the hell out of Alabama in a stadium full of Tide fans. Playing one of these big time SEC teams would be way better than playing Purdue or Indiana in the Insight--the Big10 was so soft this year.
Posted by extrapoint on November 30, 2007 at 3:02 p.m.
Good to hear about Polk. If Scott does not pick the Buffs we still have a 4 star. How outrageous is that?
It is a tough choice.
Spurrier or Tide fans. You are right. More bang for the buck with the Tide fans.
I'm actually trying to look on the bright side Saheeb. We already have a recruiting base in the SW and West coast. Opening a bigger pipeline from the SE would be good.
Posted by bouldabuff on November 30, 2007 at 3:06 p.m.
Kendrick Celestine could play in front of his family too--do we have any other bayou boys?
If D.Scott does sign on I heard we would make Polk into a LB -- This is only his second season at tailback.